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 Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 07:03 pm
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Tony Gilbert
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I've had this GEC for a while - it's got some unusual features apart from the complex orbital oscillating mechanism. It runs on 110v DC, and is marked 'War Finish' - code for steel blades and cage and rougher castings. The tag features black text on a gold painted background - presumably also to save brass.

Pete Moulds asked me to take some pics to help with restoring his example, and I thought people here might like to see them too. If I ever get a rectifier sorted out I'll film it working, but in the meantime I think one of our Australian members has one if they'd like to post something up.

Larry - if you'd like them for the gallery, let me know how to submit them, or please feel free to grab them from these links:


Click on the thumbnails, then again on the image that opens to get the full size version:













Here's the patent: http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=301576A&KC=A&FT=D&date=19281206&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP



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 Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 07:14 pm
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Terry Fisher
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Tony,

Great fan.  What is the year of manufacture?

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 Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 11:38 pm
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I agree. Awsome fan Tony. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I have the AC version,but the oscillating mechanism doesn't appear so complex ,so I would presume yours would be older,If your cage badge is original it would make it a newer fan.So I would like also to know your thoughts on age.
Are the screw plugs at the front,top of the motor housing for inspection of the commutator / brushes only or some other purpose?
It is the first time I have seen a spider/web support on the base of a GEC like that too.
I am guessing it may be off a ship or made for an environment where there was a lot of vibration and the spider stopped the pivot from moving if it became loose..???
Thanks again,all the best
Cheers Jim

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 Posted: Wed Jan 20th, 2010 11:53 pm
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Jim Dunn
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My Gec fan

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 01:05 am
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Jim - thanks for posting that. Yours looks like my other late 20's or early 30's oscillators, apart from the gyro mechanism. It seems odd that my later one has a more complex set-up as things usually got simpler with development.

As it says 'War Finish', I guess it has to be 1939 to 1945. The cage and badge style are right for that age, but everything else about it feels older.

It might be from a ship - 110v DC would be a strange working voltage for any other use. I'm guessing that the extra covers are inspection holes, but I'll have to dig out the catalogues to see if they're mentioned.

I'm not sure if the heavy duty bracket is related to on-board use though - I think the one that Pete has (that I can't find a picture of) also has it.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 02:14 am
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Terry Fisher
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Tony,

Thanks for the additional information.  The fan does look older than war years but European fans are that way.  It seems they also had brass parts much longer than American made fans.  Do you have access to a patents data base you could look up that number on your fan?  If so that would help nail down the year of mfg. 

Jim...........You also have a good looking GEC.  I sure do like the design of those fans.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 02:28 am
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Terry - the link to the patent is towards the end of my first post. It's from 1927, which I think was the first year the 'Gyro' oscillator appeared in the GEC catalogues.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 05:06 am
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Wow ! Tony ! This fan is unreal ! Jim, yours likewise ! I love'em !

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 06:13 am
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I agree with Ralf, that fan is stunning. I was first struck by the fact that there are just three struts, but more than that, those struts are thick and round, and the way they protrude from the motor is highly unusual. The second thing which struck me is how there is a rectangular hollow gap between the lower part of the fan base the the upper part going into the motor. On top of this all angles are sharp and creased, something more akin to an alien or the Terminator than an antique electric fan. Beautiful and extremely interesting too.

By the way Tony, do you plan to restore this fan?

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 06:58 am
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Great old GEC Tony. I did enjoy seeing it at Richards last year. I think your right on the asumtion of it being used on a ship. Even in 1939 a 110v DC fan for the home would been unusual. Not sure your right on the term gyro though, I would say it had a orbital motion

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 03:07 pm
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David - I think this'll be one of those that gets a service and a clean up, rather than a full refurb - there are many fans in that queue though!

Here's a page I've taken from Richard Boothroyd's scan of the 1928 GEC catalogue, which shows a fan like Jim's:


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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 04:06 pm
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There is just something about these English fans that are so unique. First Veritys and now GEC fans. This is the first I have ever heard of them and I will keep a look out. Thanks to you Tony, I have become a fan myself (doh! bad joke).

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 Posted: Thu Jan 21st, 2010 04:55 pm
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You wrote:  "Terry - the link to the patent is towards the end of my first post. It's from 1927, which I think was the first year the 'Gyro' oscillator appeared in the GEC catalogues"

Well DUH :shock:...............don't know how I missed that!  Nice patent document for sure!

I've always wondered why they did not market that oscillator in the USA.   

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 Posted: Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 03:21 pm
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Tony, your fan is super and I can't recall ever seeing one before..... The oscillator seems so well bade and designed..... I love all the different parts and nobs (bits in UK lingo) etc.
Also, what makes it so special is the fantastic original condition. I am hopeful it will remain as you have it shown.....
congrats and thanks for sharing.

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