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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 03:52 pm
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Rick Powell
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I need some help identifying this fan, it is an Emerson Northwind of some model and vintage, perplexed as it is "plug and play" and doesn't have the screw on blade assembly.  Also need help in uploading photos,






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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 03:54 pm
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Mark Behrend
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Looks like a galvin

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 03:55 pm
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Chris A. Campbell
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It's a Galvin.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 03:55 pm
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Emerson Northwinds do not have the screw on blade used on the top quality Emersons but your fan looks like a Galvin, made in St. Louis and with some features or looks of some smaller Emersons.   I had one like yours a while ago and, if I remember, it had a normal set screw blade attached to a screw on adapter much like the screw on blades of the better Emersons.  Good fans, they are a plug in fan with no switch or may have had an in-line switch on the power cord as mind did.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 04:16 pm
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Rick Powell
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Thanks for the information, seems somewhat coincidental that it almost mirrors the Northwinds, and being produced in St Louis, early corporate espionage.  Does anyone know what model it is?

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 04:20 pm
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Rick Powell
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Steve I spoke before I looked in our gallery.  You have the only two Galvins listed, do you still have them?

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 06:40 pm
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Chris A. Campbell
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I have one identical to yours with the badge.

Lots of Emerson design in the fan. Alway wondered if infringed patent or partnership.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 08:47 pm
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Wes Vreeland
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Galvin----









Ever hear of Galvin? 









The man started a company that made the first portable radio, it later became Motorola...









The Galvin Company was started on the heels of a few pissed off engineers of the Emerson and R&M companies...









It did infringe, IMO heavily, on Emersons....but with only a few years under their belt, the company was sold into the hands of Knapp Monarch and was no more...









Very well made fans, right up with Emerson's quality...they a scarce but not rare...



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Rick, I sold my Galvin fans quite a few years ago and at least one went to a man with a Galvin last name.   I think he said he was related to the company Galvin.  The one like yours is closer to the Emerson Jr. than to the Northwind which is a commutator motor.  

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 Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2017 10:06 pm
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A cursory look at a few pages of Emerson records shows them making fans for Hunter, Wagner, Delco and Westinghouse.  I'm sure there were others.  

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 12:13 am
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Wes Vreeland wrote: Galvin----The man started a company that made the first portable radio, it later became Motorola...


John Galvin- Galvin Electric Co.

Paul Galvin- Motorola

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Wes Vreeland wrote: The Galvin Company was started on the heels of a few pissed off engineers of the Emerson and R&M companies...


The Emerson engineer Harrelson was there maybe a year before moving on to Dayton fan & Motor.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 12:28 am
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Russ Huber
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Wes Vreeland wrote: It did infringe, IMO heavily, on Emersons....but with only a few years under their belt, the company was sold into the hands of Knapp Monarch and was no more...


Only the oscillator mechanism was found for infringement.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 12:53 am
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Russ Huber
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Cool fan. Ya know why?  Galvin was only in business from 22-32, and not all of those 10 years was fan motor manufacture. :D

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 06:20 am
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Rick,
 There is another thread on here about Galvin's back before Christmas.
 Has more of the history Galvin had Emerson and Robbins Myers engineers .
I know where there is a 16 inch   oscillator  but is rough.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/19/885/1502292/
http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=45081&forum_id=1&highlight=galvin

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 10:39 am
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Thanks for the information Charlie, that is one long lawsuit, I imagine Emerson was especially angered that their former employees stole their ideas.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 05:54 pm
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Rick Powell wrote: I imagine Emerson was especially angered that their former employees stole their ideas.

FWIW....Galvin Electric(established 1922) evolved from H-G motor manufacture 2 years after H-G Manufacturing was established in St. Louis in 1920.  The Emerson chief small motor engineer that came to the VP chair at H-G Manufacturing in 20 left Galvin shortly after it was established in 22 to take the chief engineering position at Dayton Fan & Motor Co. 


The fan motor oscillator patent filed by Galvin in 1925 that infringed on the Emerson oscillator patent appears to have nothing to do with former Emerson employees/engineers at Galvin. The engineer that designed the CLEVER Galvin oscillating mechanism in 1925 made the mistake of copying the Emerson adjustment case(oscillator wheel)mechanism ACTIONS to close to operation of the Emerson PATENTED mechanism.  The Galvin Engineer assigned to John Galvin simply made the ability to adjust the fan motor sweep from the wafer disc on top of the gearbox during fan operation, as opposed to the Emerson concept of adjusting the oscillator wheel under the gearbox best done with fan motor not in operation.


In a nut shell, It appears Galvin himself, a former R&M employee idealized the use of the successful marketing tactics and design of their close neighbor Emerson Electric.      

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 Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2017 07:35 pm
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Rick Powell
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Interesting Russ, looks like was a good old days fan club gang that frequently hopped from one company to the next, not that anything like that goes on these days.

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The first mention of a NEW 10" fan motor from Galvin is...........1924.


http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2955


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjeq8ddBeyY


The H-G 1/4 HP motor in the you tube video would be far a few I would think. H-G Mfg. was in business 20-22 before the name was changed to..........Galvin.

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