AFCA Forums Home
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
AFCA Forums > Antique Fan Collectors Association > Pre-1950 (Antique) > Diehl Style 36 Desk, Trunnion, Bracket

 Moderated by: Steve Cunningham, Rod Rogers, Larry Hancock
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
Diehl Style 36 Desk, Trunnion, Bracket  Rate Topic 
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 02:53 pm
  PMQuoteReply
1st Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
After scanning images on Google it appears the two motor bells are incorrectly oriented, and the oil cups on this example are not correct.  The bearings appears to have threading for the oil cups present only. 


Attached Image (viewed 503 times):

IMG_5026.JPG

Last edited on Sun May 14th, 2017 02:54 pm by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 02:54 pm
  PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
.

Attached Image (viewed 452 times):

IMG_5015.JPG

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 02:55 pm
  PMQuoteReply
3rd Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
.

Attached Image (viewed 430 times):

IMG_5008.JPG

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 02:56 pm
  PMQuoteReply
4th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Amazing, the switch is fractured into 3rds but still there. :D

Attached Image (viewed 420 times):

IMG_5021.JPG

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 02:58 pm
  PMQuoteReply
5th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
As found bell orientation with cast hole to the top front and back.

Attached Image (viewed 436 times):

IMG_4992.JPG

Last edited on Sun May 14th, 2017 02:58 pm by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:00 pm
  PMQuoteReply
6th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Oil cups were threaded into here on the underside.

Attached Image (viewed 430 times):

IMG_4990.JPG

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:01 pm
  PMQuoteReply
7th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Oil cup, and threaded caps as found.

Attached Image (viewed 403 times):

IMG_4999.JPG

Last edited on Sun May 14th, 2017 03:02 pm by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:07 pm
  PMQuoteReply
8th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
How many guard support variations are with this Diehl model 36?  Are there 3 variations being 2 of brass and one with of steel?



Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:09 pm
  PMQuoteReply
9th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Is the flat guard support in this example Chuck posted in past made of brass?

Attached Image (viewed 446 times):

Diehl Train stump back.bmp

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:12 pm
  PMQuoteReply
10th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Diehl style 36 advertised in .....1904. This is the year it was introduced.

Attached Image (viewed 428 times):

No.36DDiehl.png

Last edited on Sun May 14th, 2017 03:12 pm by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:13 pm
  PMQuoteReply
11th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Diehl style 36 once again advertised for .......1907.

Attached Image (viewed 451 times):

untitled.png

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:13 pm
  PMQuoteReply
12th Post
Steve Stephens
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: San Anselmo, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Would my 9" be a Model 36 also?  No Style No. on the motor tag.  This one has the neat square wire struts and I can tell you that it takes two people to pull the cage out to get the fourth strut to line up with the mounting hole.
I take it that your fan came with one complete long oil cup and one top part only of the oil cup but the cup itself is missing?










Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:15 pm
  PMQuoteReply
13th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
When did Diehl first place THEIR MANUFACTURED AC  INDUCTION FAN MOTOR on the market?.........1913.  

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 03:21 pm
  PMQuoteReply
14th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Steve Stephens wrote: Would my 9" be a Model 36 also?  No Style No. on the motor tag.  This one has the neat square wire struts and I can tell you that it takes two people to pull the cage out to get the fourth strut to line up with the mounting hole.
I take it that your fan came with one complete long oil cup and one top part only of the oil cup but the cup itself is missing?
.I would have to research your 9" model.  Yes, one of the cups is missing. Unless  someone comes forward validating the cups I can only assume based on other examples I googled mine are not correct.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun May 14th, 2017 04:14 pm
  PMQuoteReply
15th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Russ Huber wrote: Steve Stephens wrote: Would my 9" be a Model 36 also?  No Style No. on the motor tag.  This one has the neat square wire struts and I can tell you that it takes two people to pull the cage out to get the fourth strut to line up with the mounting hole.
I take it that your fan came with one complete long oil cup and one top part only of the oil cup but the cup itself is missing?
.I would have to research your 9" model.  Yes, one of the cups is missing. Unless  someone comes forward validating the cups I can only assume based on other examples I googled mine are not correct.

With its introduction in 1904 the Diehl "Universal" desk, bracket, swivel trunnion fan motor was offered in 12" model at any voltage up to 220 VDC, and the 16" model at any voltage up to 500 VDC. NO...mention of the 9" model. 


The first mention in electrical trade(so far) of the 9" model was in ....1908.  It is included with other 12" & 16" " Diehl desk, bracket, and swivel trunnion fan motors as a "Universal" fan motor. No style no. is mentioned. In 1908 all 3 blade sizes of 9", 12", and 16" Universal desk fans were offered in two voltages being.....110 and 230 VDC.


In 1909 it is clearly mentioned in electrical trade the 9" Universal model was discontinued for the new.....8" model.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 04:32 am
  PMQuoteReply
16th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
A very special thanks goes to Bill Arfmann for the courage and kindness to loan me a Diehl ornate base oil cup and top bearing retainer screw to reproduce. To Carlton Ward for our swap so I could obtain the correct Diehl blade and guard. To Kim Frank for his expertise on a fine set of reproduction brass guard supports, with what I might add the "just right" patina.  :D  And once again a special thanks to Mike Petree for a fine new switch lever, and nickel plating my brass brush cap retainers. 


A second year vocational tool and die student removed/inserted new brass sleeve bearings, oil cups and top of cup brass screw in, the Delrin brush holder insulators and caps, and one of the missing brush cap retainers. 


It was worth all the time and efforts to get her all together again. I now have to do the rest.  :D









Attached Image (viewed 187 times):

IMG_8673.JPG

Last edited on Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 04:33 am by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 12:40 pm
  PMQuoteReply
17th Post
Chris A. Campbell
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Mar 6th, 2014
Location: Little Rock, AR
Status: 
Offline
Russ, sent message regarding the oiler. FYI, Your brush caps are identical to what was used on the DC toilet bowls

Last edited on Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 12:41 pm by Chris A. Campbell

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 02:34 pm
  PMQuoteReply
18th Post
Kim Frank
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Nov 15th, 2005
Location: Whitestown, USA
Status: 
Offline
Sweet fan. Nice job on bringing it back.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 02:41 pm
  PMQuoteReply
19th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Kim Frank wrote: Sweet fan. Nice job on bringing it back.
I haven't done much for "bringing it back" yet. Thanks to you and the others mentioned I now have that opportunity to do so in the future.  :dude:


These fans are extremely well constructed. A beef cake in the hand so to speak. Grandma would have to get dad to move it for dusting.  :D


Last edited on Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 02:41 pm by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Aug 23rd, 2019 03:47 am
  PMQuoteReply
20th Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
Original ornate base Diehl oil reservoir, cap, and bearing retainer screw.

Attached Image (viewed 123 times):

IMG_6226 (2).JPG

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Aug 23rd, 2019 03:50 am
  PMQuoteReply
21st Post
Russ Huber
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Southwest, Wisconsin USA
Status: 
Offline
The same parts reproduced for me by a second year vocational school tool & die student. They are in the rough needing a buff.  :D







Attached Image (viewed 123 times):

IMG_8685.JPG

Last edited on Fri Aug 23rd, 2019 03:52 am by Russ Huber

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Aug 23rd, 2019 11:27 am
  PMQuoteReply
22nd Post
Bobby Gaines
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Tue Aug 8th, 2017
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Love that fan, the motor looks a lot like my Diehl Pullman car fan.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

Current time is 07:59 am  
AFCA Forums > Antique Fan Collectors Association > Pre-1950 (Antique) > Diehl Style 36 Desk, Trunnion, Bracket Top



Beige Theme By: Di @ UltraBB
UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.1922 seconds (13% database + 87% PHP). 30 queries executed.