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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 03:15 pm
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Donald Husar
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Picked this up last weekend.   Can anyone help ID the date made?  Is it worth restoring?Thanks so much...

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 03:37 pm
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Absolutely, the paint looks great, bent cage support arm and maybe bent back a blade when it got dinged, but no big deal.  WE didn't manufacture fans when this one was built, they got re-badged fans from different manufacturers.  I think this might be a Diehl fan, it's got the neat oscillator hidden inside the rear bell.  That's a really nice old fan, I'm guessing 1920s or 30s.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 03:49 pm
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I paid $10 for it. I have never heard of Diehl, sound German. Can I get parts for it?

Thanks for the info.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 05:07 pm
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I just checked my fan listing and I've got a Diehl 10512-2 that probably is the same as your fan, just a different badge.  Diehl was a large American manufacturer of fans, and I'm showing the 10512 as ~1920 in my listing.  What parts do you need?  It looks like your fan is complete and just needs the cage/support straightened, maybe a little blade tweeking, and a power cord.

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Westinghouse came out with "drawn steel" fan motors in 1912.

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I took apart the motor assy to clean the old grease. Removed the motor from the base to clean where needed. The base is broken. See pic. I'll need to dowel pin the two parts together. Maybe you have a better fix for this issue?

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Thanks for the ad. Very cool. The one I picked up is different then the ad. Fan cage is not welded together. It is wrapped around the frame. Interesting.

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Diehl was manufacturing direct current fan motors exclusively, outsourcing AC fan motors until 1912.  In 1913 Diehl didn't want to get left in Corporate Westinghouse dust and came out with "THEIR" first  in house manufactured induction AC "PRESSED STEEL" fan motors. They offer these pressed steel models in  both AC and DC circuit.


Your fan was offered to the electrical trade from 1913-1915. Diehl brought out die cast motor housing models for the 1916 season of different design.   

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Are you indicating this may be a DC current fan? I don't want to burn it up.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 06:53 pm
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I need to find the base plate or make one for the fan.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 07:42 pm
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Question: Do you know the secret of removing the broken part of the base from the bottom section of the base? If I can get it apart I can tap and screw the broken part back together.

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Donald, you hit the nail on the head, pins and some high strength epoxy and you're good to go.  You might get lucky and find a base cover with an ad in the Buy/Sell/Trade on the AFCA website.  Otherwise, I think making one is the only solution.  Although these fans do come up occasionally on eBay.

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60 cycles on motor tag = AC Fan

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Donald Husar wrote:
I need to find the base plate or make one for the fan.

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Geoff Dunaway.  Factory Diehl rubber boot/pad fits to the base

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oh WOW....it is a boot. Not likely to find one of these. But you never know!

Thanks so much for your input...a true expert helping a true novice.

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Donald Husar wrote:
oh WOW....it is a boot. Not likely to find one of these. 

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Anyone: Question: Do you know the secret of removing the broken part of the base from the bottom section of the base? If I can get it apart I can tap and screw the broken part back together.

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Do I need to worry about the separation of the transformer fins?
8/28/17---- ANYONE????

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How did the person who restored the fan get the shiny metal finish on the base of the unit?

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  The restored fan by Russ is a different model that had a brass base to begin with , yours would be pressed steel. I have several of those fans & sure wish I knew a way to reproduce those rubber boots. Otherwise you have to get creative like Russ did and craft your own base.That group of fans are sleepers in the current antique fan market.

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You can get the wood plaque in various diameters at ....Hobby Lobby for peanuts.  You simply sand, stain, and lacquer it.  If you look close you will see a gloss black delrin disc between the brass base and wood sub base. I had this cut to size at a local trophy shop. 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 12th, 2017 02:03 am
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If you wanted close to original cut a circular delrin sheet to correct diameter an glue a thin sheet of black rubber/vinyl to the bottom cut for fit under the delrin.

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Just saw one of these in an antique store but with a steel square rear ring cage. Never seen one of these before.

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