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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 12:11 am
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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Welp, I guess this is what I'll be pouring time, money, and resources into for the foreseeable future, no switch unfortunately, miraculously it runs.... 

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 12:12 am
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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 12:14 am
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great find!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 12:26 am
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Wow now the hunt begins great find and it runs you can always clean what you have and run it as the hunt continues. Congrats

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:04 am
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That's a terrific find. Acetone should melt that silver paint off and retain the japan. Tesla's are by far my favorite fans.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:06 am
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Awesome find Lewis!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:10 am
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:clap: :clap:Unreal Congratulations!!

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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Yeah I'm going to take a very conservative approach here - the paint under the silver looks at least halfway decent outside of the very bottom of the base. Acetone time it will be. Might be a slight crack where the motor meets the base but it might also be the over spray crazing - cleanup will tell.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:26 am
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Great things happen for those willing to wait.. and stay in the hunt.  Happy for you Lewis!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:26 am
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I agree completely Lewis. Where did you find it?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 02:28 am
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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Thanks all! Local craigslist in Portland - scrapper got it in a lot with a bunch of bulk metal, no idea where it came from before that.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 03:23 am
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Super find Lewis and I know you won't be looking at it as scrap metal.  Check with Chad Baker, I think he may have made some Tesla Switches...or was it someone else?

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:36 am
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Julian Vicente
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Wow. I was lined up to buy this...i came to a deal with the seller last Friday...

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:39 am
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Julian Vicente
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I've been selling off pieces to buy this...

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:39 am
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Steve Stephens wrote: I think he may have made some Tesla Switches...or was it someone else?

Edward Bowers. 


https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/46339.html

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:40 am
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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Oh dear, I'm sorry about that - the guy I got it from said several other people had made offers to him, but they were all long distance and he had decided not to deal with creating a paypal account or shipping. I only stumbled across it on local craigslist yesterday, amazed it lasted that long.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:46 am
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To be 100% honest I'm still in contact with him and am prepared to offer more money.

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You're local though...enjoy it. 👊

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I'll bow out gracefully.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 04:58 am
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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I appreciate the generosity - that certainly wasn't fair of the seller to do that to you, and I'm sorry he was less then honest about all of this, but I must tell ya the fan's already been in my physical possession since earlier today

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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HEADS UP FOLKS: I've been notified that the seller of this fan is still actively offering it to people at an inflated price, hours after I already picked it up in person. The only thing I can conclude is that he's trying to get people to send him money somehow for a fan he no longer has and has no intention of sending. If he asks you for money, this is a scam - sad but I suppose the world is filled with folks trying to make a quick extra buck, and this one didn't bet on how close knit the fan community is, and that I would happen to know some of the other people he was talking to... 


I borrowed the craigslist photos earlier since I haven't had a chance to snap anything decent, but here's another photo of the tag just to prove it is indeed in my possession. 

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 10:20 am
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Nice find!!!!! I traded mine for a BMY. :hammer:









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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 01:30 pm
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Congrats Lewis!

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Julian, I feel your pain, as most of us have done. Sometimes "woulda, coulda, shoulda" is a nonfulfilling regret.  

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Great find :clap: Lewis
Maybe this thread will help ease the project burden ...
http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=29008&forum_id=1&highlight=Interesting+observations

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 10:35 pm
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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Thanks for the info Jeff! That was a good read - I doubt I'll get around to doing this thing any justice until I'm home for a proper length of time in December/January, but that thread's going in my bookmarks. 

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OK, so I don't get it, how is this a Tesla fan if it was made by Westinghouse? I see it says Patents belonging to Tesla and some other guy were used to make the fan, but that doesn't mean its a Tesla fan, because saying its a Tesla Fan is implying that Tesla actually made the fan, when he had nothing to do with the manufacturing of the fan himself, just one of his patents...  :wondering:

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Levi,

A Tesla  design with patents assigned to Westinghouse, with manufacturing  by Westinghouse.

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OK, that's what I figured but I wasn't sure. That's why I asked.

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"Tesla" for the model of this fan is a name coined by collectors and because the motor tag has Tesla's name and patents on it.  It's a purely Westinghouse made fan using Tesla patents.   Similar to a GE "pancake" where pancake was coined by collectors, Tesla was the same.

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 Posted: Thu Oct 12th, 2017 11:56 pm
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OK, that makes sense.

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Levi Mevis wrote: OK, so I don't get it, how is this a Tesla fan if it was made by Westinghouse? I see it says Patents belonging to Tesla and some other guy were used to make the fan, but that doesn't mean its a Tesla fan, because saying its a Tesla Fan is implying that Tesla actually made the fan, when he had nothing to do with the manufacturing of the fan himself, just one of his patents...  :wondering:
It is technically known as the Westinghouse fan motor #5 introduced in 96 as a dual speed fan gained through the patented Tesla motor(stator wind).  Robert Hassler's patent on the tag is a SUPPLEMENTRY start winding(shaded pole) additional to the already existing ability for the TESLA motor to  SELF start.

The 4 head wires coming from the stator properly juiced through the funky switch contacts will start the fan motor on high speed and a slow speed can be gained through the second selection secondary winding.  

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 Posted: Tue Oct 17th, 2017 07:17 am
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Alright - a quick update. The stator wiring seems to be all sorts of screwed up in an attempt to reduce it to two leads from four, with odd splicing going on between the stator leads. A miracle that this ran. This is what it looks like presently, what should it look like? 

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland
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On the brighter side there is life in the old paint after all...

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Levi Mevis wrote: OK, that's what I figured but I wasn't sure. That's why I asked.


You should ask what's a "Meston" sometime Levi, it gets interesting...


 


Nice fan Lewis, congrats

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland wrote: Alright - a quick update. The stator wiring seems to be all sorts of screwed up in an attempt to reduce it to two leads from four, with odd splicing going on between the stator leads. A miracle that this ran. This is what it looks like presently, what should it look like? Look at some of the images in that thread.
Look at post #34 in the Tesla thread I linked to this thread.

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Michael Rathberger wrote:

You should ask what's a "Meston" sometime Levi, it gets interesting...


I'm ready to rock'n roll when you are. :D

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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland wrote: The stator wiring seems to be all sorts of screwed up in an attempt to reduce it to two leads from four, with odd splicing going on between the stator leads. A miracle that this ran. This is what it looks like presently, what should it look like? 
I wish I would of taken more pictures.  There is enough of these around Lewis that I would think someone could detailed  pictures of how and where those stator coil wires go. 

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Tesla didn't make anything He discovered a lot of things!

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