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 Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2018 06:38 pm
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Dan Foley
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This Vader is in pretty decent shape aside from some scuff marks on the cage and motor housing.  The blades are in excellent shape with no cracks or chips.  I did unfortunately have to replace the headwire and line cord as those were in iffy shape, although the line cord had already been replaced at some point.  








Runs great on all speeds with very minimal vibration.  

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 Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2018 09:01 pm
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Matthew Albach
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Awesome find Dan,
Looks like it has the 1st generation blade šŸ‘

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 Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2018 07:17 pm
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Thanks, Matt!

I'd say the first gen blades are my favorite, so it's nice to have one with intact original paint on the blades. I have two others with first gen blades, and one with second gen. Although one of the fans is in pieces right now and I'm probably going to sell it off, since it has been in a box for almost a year now.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2018 12:38 am
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So I was test running this fan some more today, and I noticed the current draw had climbed way up.  At first it seemed to be within spec, but now it draws nearly 1.1A on low speed, and that climbs a bit higher on medium and high.  I did change out the old cap, as that one seemed to be shot...new one is 1uf/450VAC.  I unhooked the motor from the speed coil and checked it with a multimeter:

Green to yellow:  36.8 ohms
Red to yellow: 109 ohms
Green to red:  142 ohms

G to Y seems to be normal, but the other two appear to be quite high.  I'm wondering if this motor is on its way out.  The old cap didn't seem to be doing much, so I'm wondering if perhaps someone continued to run the fan for a while after the cap had died?

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2018 12:48 am
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What is the approximate value on this model?  There is one for sale in my local Antique shop for $85, it needs new plug and head wire otherwise it appears to be in good shape.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2018 12:16 pm
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That's a good looking fan, and that is some extreme blade pitch!

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2018 09:10 pm
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Thank you, Tom! It really does have some ridiculous blade pitch going on, they actually overhang the motor a bit.


I think the coil in this fan might actually be what's acting funny. I tried swapping in another 12-Q-3's coil and capacitor and this motor seems to work fine. If I put this fan's coil on the other one, that fan's motor doesn't draw excessive current but it spins extremely slow.  Same results from my parts fan coil too, which seems odd.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2018 02:45 am
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Nice grab! I like the First Gen blades.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2018 11:48 am
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Looks great

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Zachary Parr
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That is a good price

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 Posted: Mon Feb 12th, 2018 07:51 pm
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Dan Foley wrote: I think the coil in this fan might actually be what's acting funny. I tried swapping in another 12-Q-3's coil and capacitor and this motor seems to work fine. If I put this fan's coil on the other one, that fan's motor doesn't draw excessive current but it spins extremely slow.  Same results from my parts fan coil too, which seems odd.
I'd double check the capacitor Dan. I redid a 77646 AS for a friend, it initially worked fine but began refusing to start. It turned out that the new 1.5 uF cap was bad, it tested out at .6 uF.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2018 01:07 am
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Duane Burright wrote: I'd double check the capacitor Dan. I redid a 77646 AS for a friend, it initially worked fine but began refusing to start. It turned out that the new 1.5 uF cap was bad, it tested out at .6 uF.


It's odd, since I've tried dropping a couple other capacitors in that I know are working fine.  Same results with this fan's coil.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2018 02:33 am
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Ken Peck wrote: What is the approximate value on this model?  There is one for sale in my local Antique shop for $85, it needs new plug and head wire otherwise it appears to be in good shape.
Grab it for $85.00 that's a steal at that price !!

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 Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2018 02:29 am
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Agreed. These have a lot of power.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2018 04:24 pm
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Iā€™d buy two at $85!

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 Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2018 08:18 pm
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$85 is a great price. This one cost me $71, which I think is more than fair considering the overall condition.

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