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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 11:33 pm
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Mike Eckenroad
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I have an 1899 cake that I bought as a basket case so I have never seen it together. I believe I have acquired most of the parts I was missing but I not exactly sure what and how many nuts go where on the motor studs. Here are the motor studs I have, it came with 2 and I ordered the others from Chad however they are not the same . The ones on the right are the ones I got from Chad and those match the ones I have from my 05 cake and the ones on the left are the ones I got with the fan, which are correct? Notice the difference in nuts as well. How many nuts should I have for each stud and where do they go? Do I want those thick nuts or the thin ones?  Here is a photo of ask the parts I have. I got the  missing motor tag screw, 8 acorn nuts and also Grease cup. I have a broken strut so I need to fix it Or replace this one. Does anyone see anything else might be missing? 

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 Posted: Sat May 12th, 2018 11:41 pm
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Mike Eckenroad
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I addition to that I also have a messed up trunnion .It has 2 issues. The first of which is the shaft coming off of the yoke is bent. I'm not sure if I should cut it off and weld it back on straight or just heat it up and try to bend it, the thought of that one makes me pucker a bit. Also I have never welded cast iron before and it has already been powder coated be the previous owner. Second issue is that the "arms" on the yoke are skewed or twisted. This seems like it may have been cast that way. If one got cast that way I would assume there were more  has anyone seen this? It's hard to get a pic of.    
 

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 Posted: Sun May 13th, 2018 12:00 am
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Ted Kaczor
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Mike,
on the first picture the two threaded studs with thicker nuts screwed in to the end of threads are correct, it looks as you have 5 of them. You would need 8 of those thicker nuts. 4 will be screwed in on the studs just as the two on picture than through the stator and through front motor housing and another 4 larger nuts will be screwed in on the short thread up against the front cover so the stator will be sandwiched inside. Now, there should be enough thread sticking pass the larger nuts up front to accommodate Struts thickness and than acorns will go on the top of the struts. There for you would need to adjust all of them. Check if the threaded studs are in correct length. Hopefully this will help.

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 Posted: Sun May 13th, 2018 12:43 am
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Here's a side by side of the F4 and E7.........

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 12:23 pm
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Whatever forces bent the trunnion shaft probably acted on the trunnion arm too. 1899 fans have specific hallmarks. The rear terminal thumb nuts are thicker than later models. The rear ring on the cage has the same thickness of brass stock as the front ring. 1900 and later cages used a thicker stock for the rear ring. The cast hub on the blade uses one oil slinger grove instead of two, as seen on later cast hubs. Acorn nuts have no slots. Grease cup instead of oil reservoir. No bearing retention screw. Brass sleeve instead of an oil return. It appears the serial number is before 31001. As such, the cage probably doesn't have a GE badge. That's about all I can think of at the moment.....

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 12:59 am
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Kim, So I took a look at the parts I have and all of the specifics you mentioned are present so I think I have all the correct stuff for this year. I didn't have a blade though so I had Ted kaczor make me one. However it does not have any oil grooves in it and when I look at some other pics of a 99 I can't see one in those either so I just wanted to see if should have one or not. 

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 12:34 pm
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I stand corrected. The 1899 blades does not have any oil slinger grooves. I checked the five in my collection and all have a solid hub.....no slinger grooves.... Senior moment.......

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 02:13 pm
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Cool thanks for checking, I just wanted to make sure I have all the peices and parts right. I was thinking that it wouldn't make sense to have an oil groove since this fan does not have any oil /grease return system. 

Last edited on Thu May 17th, 2018 02:17 pm by Mike Eckenroad

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