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 Posted: Sat Jun 9th, 2018 01:17 pm
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Russ Huber
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The fan runs and oscillates. Check out the funky rear oil cup.  First time for my eyes.







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  U R lucky to find that fan with intact oscillator gear box. They are broken or missing nearly as often as the Kidney gear boxes are.  :up: :clap: :up:

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 Posted: Sat Jun 9th, 2018 03:32 pm
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Geoff Dunaway wrote:
  U R lucky to find that fan with intact oscillator gear box. They are broken or missing nearly as often as the Kidney gear boxes are.  :up: :clap: :up:

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Geoff Dunaway wrote:   U R lucky to find that fan with intact oscillator gear box. They are broken or missing nearly as often as the Kidney gear boxes are.  :up: :clap: :up:
Let's do the math. This 12" fan weighs in at roughly 25 lbs. The blade is brass with a CAST brass hub/spider. The motor housing, guard supports, and base are all heavy cast iron. Other components such as the wing thumb screw, oscillator wheel are cast magnetic metal. The guard is steel.  The gear box cover and CAST oscillator link are brass.


The motor pivot and gearbox are...….die cast(pot metal). WHO....was the brilliant engineer with gifted foresight to place that ton of bricks fan motor head on a …….pot metal motor support/pivot?   :wondering:


Yes, I am fortunate. Not even a crack anywhere in the die cast components. All  the gears are sound.

Edit: I was wrong, with a magnifying glass I did find a hairline fracture in the back of the gearbox that does not affect the integrity of the gearbox. 

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Can anyone please advise me if this Dayton fan has the correct pivot knuckle?  I have tried to find this model type 67 on the web with no success.  It is not in the gallery.  It must be the oscillator mechanism used after the toilet bowl model in the teens?


I can't find any images of this model in electrical trade.  

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Mine

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Thank you, Mike.  It is the real deal, awesome.  My concern was it somewhat resembles the Westinghouse stamp steel die cast pivot. 


I see you got lucky as well with your gearbox.  When the vocational school Tool & Die is back in action again in August I am going to corner the instructor if he can get a student to machine a knuckle out of brass that compliments the fan. This would add super stability to that monster of a fan motor head while it's swinging around.   :D




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I like this particular Dayton quite a bit, it has a nice look to it with the huge motor on a smallish base and the oscillator link is a cool piece all in its own right. Reminds me some of the Fidelity links on my "side gear." That said, my gearbox is one of the noisier I've ever encountered, eventually I'll have to take it all apart and try to figure out why.


 


Good luck with the neck, I still subscribe to the "if it ain't broke,l don't fix it" theory...

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Michael Rathberger wrote:

My gearbox is one of the noisier I've ever encountered, eventually I'll have to take it all apart and try to figure out why.

 

Good luck with the neck, I still subscribe to the "if it ain't broke,l don't fix it" theory...


The good news is the gearbox noise is not factory.  :D  It appears I got lucky with that as well.  Mine is reasonably quiet.  If I replaced the old grease with new grease it would more than likely be better yet.


Replacing the pivot has nothing to do with your well known theory. :D  This fan is built like a brick #@$% house.  If restored it would make a great daily runner. To anchor the fan motor and oscillating linkage to a more hardy pivot in the likeness of the original would spare future tears when the original breaks under the pressure.  If one is going to set it on a shelf to collect dust and admire no need for a fix. :D  

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You have a nice clean example it appears, hopefully your gearbox just needs fresh grease .  I wish my base looked like yours.  I also got a heads up I need a speed coil rewind.  D amn.  High speed is fine, medium and low loose momentum, the coil windings must be shorting.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 12th, 2018 03:27 am
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Have the pivot cast in brass. They are roughly 1 hour away and I had no clue. They do one of a kind specialty casting.


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 Just make d amn sure you keep the smoke in! 

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Richard Daugird wrote:  Just make d amn sure you keep the smoke in! 
No worry, no smoke.  :D

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Hey Russ, it looks to me like if the oscillator gearbox on your fan got broken, you'd have to have the whole back cover of the fan motor remade/recast because the oscillator gearbox and the back cover of your fan was cast as one piece... :wondering:  :pissed :down: 

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The oscillator housing is a seperate piece Levi.


 


It's a clean example Russ, someone was in it in the past. I had to replace the headwire they replaced before she would run, and I did clean and repack the gearbox. I'm not too worried about it, summers here and the boys wanted to ride the old CT3 and Servi-cycle this year, so I've spent my time on those, they're having fun. There's something special about winding up a 2 stroke.


 


All that said, it'd be down the list of a daily runner anyway, that big motor swinging around on the pivot bearing puts a lot of stress on all those parts. I'd be curious to know if your oscillator pivot screws are straight or a little bent? The one holding the pivot knuckle connection on mine was bent from the force of the direction change of that motor.


 


 


 

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Michael Rathberger wrote: That big motor swinging around on the pivot bearing puts a lot of stress on all those parts. I'd be curious to know if your oscillator pivot screws are straight or a little bent? The one holding the pivot knuckle connection on mine was bent from the force of the direction change of that motor.

Actually my oscillation linkage is straight and intact. No problems there.  The only reason I mentioned duplicating the original pot metal pivot out of brass is to eliminate the potential risk of fracture and additional wear. I would of course keep the intact original pivot.  At present all mine needs is a speed coil rewind, new finish, and cords.

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Michael Rathberger wrote:

The oscillator housing is a seperate piece Levi.


OK, didn't know that, because when you look at it in the picture it looks like its all one piece rather than two separate pieces.

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Cool beans Russ, it'll be a nice fan. I  like the steel cage on them, and you have the strip badge which is a plus.

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On the market 18 and 19 for sure.



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It appears this fan motor design minus the toilet bowl oscillator mechanism hit the market in 18.



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