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Dan Wyatt
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I will preface my remarks by saying that I believe that the AFCA is a great organization with a lot of great people, activities, forums, reference material both written & in picture form, and the list goes on and on.
 
Having said that, I believe we can make our AFCA even better. Beyond what is currently being done, I believe we can create a more organized manner for the collection and storage of a portion of the vast amount of knowledge concerning fan companies. Sure we have a lot of written information and pictorial galleries of fans and we have a search mechanism on our site(s) to find answers, but I believe we can better organize a portion of that vast amount of existing knowledge into a focused "knowledge base" "per company" in an easy to find "central location". Once that information is located and as time goes on we can always add "new" information to that "knowledge base" on a per fan company basis.
 
I have had several of these ideas for years, but I only discussed them with a few fan collecting friends on a few ocassions, but this morning I called George Durbin and Jeff Whitfield who are current AFCA Board Members and Jim Kovar who is a past Board Member. We discussed several of my ideas, some of their own, etc. and we all believe that there may be merit in forming a more organized “Knowledge Base” per company.

  A. Thoughts on how to better organize knowledge of a particular fan company.

      1. begin with a format for the knowledge base which might include a basic history of the fan company, description of company and fans produced, models of fans produced, history of each model, different iterations of each model, etc.

Example: We might create a title such as "Air Castle Fan Knowledge Base" and post it as such in our current Pre-1950(Antique) forum (or elsewhere which we can later discuss further) and discuss all manners of information related to Air Castle. This information obviously could be previously posted information as well as new information. Sure there is a lot of excellent information posted on our forum concerning Air Castle fans, but to find out an overview of Air Castle fans it usually involves a rather protracted searching process to find the following: the history of Air Castle Fan Co., what models were made, what sizes were made, differences in fan mounting (bases, pedestals, etc.), differences in blades, what were the various motors used, differences in blade guards, historical references to changes in these fans and in what time frame, and the list goes on and on.

  B. Where to locate these "knowledge bases"

      1. perhaps on our "Home Page" expand the existing name of "Galleries" which are currently only pictures to read "Galleries and Knowledge Bases" .........the idea is to centrally locate both the visual and written information. Example: under the current heading of "American Made Fans" there is listing of pictures of American fan companies in alphabetical order and in the first column of the "Galleries" site is the listing of "Air Castle" and when opened there are 3 pictures of Air Castle fans. I believe that a good place to possibly locate the Air Castle fan "Knowledge Base" would be to create a rectangle the same size as the picture link "brackets" that you can click on to in order to see enlarged pictures of various pictures of the Air Castle fan. This bracket/link could perhaps be located to the left of the first picture in order to create a "flow" of the thought from the "Knowledge Base" that is written to the visual which are obviously the pictures shown. Meaning when you clicked on the bracket/link it would open the "Air Castle Fan Knowledge Base"
 
What are your thoughts?


Thanks ~ Dan

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I propose we move this conversation/ post to the “other collectibles “ so we can discuss freely among members only.  
This does not and should not occur in front of guests.  I think it’s a great idea, and a good conversation, but in the right context and audience.  


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Dan Wyatt
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Lane,

I talked to George, Jeff, and Jim about where to first locate these ideas and they agreed to post them in the "Pre-1950" forum. These gentlemen also agreed that the final assemblage of the "Knowledge Base" should be eventually for our members only. Perhaps to locate these thoughts in the "Other Collectables" might be a miss-classification of the topic, but the "Pre-1950" forum isn't a good placement for the topic either.

We can iron this detail out later, but your idea does have merit.

Thanks ~ Dan

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Lane ,
I agree and disagree with your input.
There are some things that need to be addressed and it would not hurt to let every
 in on it .
We may get a newbie that may be able to handle the tasks better than us.
I .have noticed that we been getting  more lookers lately.

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Here you go. http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=55550&forum_id=1&highlight=Air+Castle

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Good idea Dan. I rarely look in the "Other Collectables" setion; I would have missed this.

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Hi Dan and everyone!

We are in the beginning stages and process of making changes to our web page... These changes will be designed to make additional info easier to access and searches easier to do... I need to emphasize we are at the very beginning stages of this... Dan has some good ideas as well as others and these things will be looked at by the board and can be implemented after the web page changes are made... This stuff takes awhile to get done as everyone is part time... Please post your ideas and be polite Some things we will be able to  do and some wont be so easy to implement... Information is what makes the AFCA such a great organization... As you get info post it. 


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First, I agree with Dan's assessment of our need to organize our vast collection of knowledge in a more accessible format.  There are postings like that of Mike Kearns above that have done a very good job of rounding up most of the knowledge about a particular fan company, in this case Air Castle, and summarizing it in a single place. Still, you have to search through many Air Castle postings to find one like Mike's with ample information.  And then you need to add in postings where collectors have worked on a particular Air Castle model and solved specific problems. So much of it is there but finding it takes some searching. But then who doesn't like a good search every now and then?


Next, I am happy to hear that changes are on the way.  If we haven't learned anything in recent years I hope we've learned that change is inevitable and we either ride it or get rolled over by it. 



It would be nice to get a preview of the changes and what particular problems are being solved. You never know when someone inside or outside the club may have important input.



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Initially, when I joined AFCA, my enthusiasm led me to post photos of my first few fans in the 'Galleries' section but I gradually recognised that there was nobody else posting photos in the non US made fans section.
Frankly the galleries section is an excellent concept but the sections I was viewing are just not well organised and don't have structure or tell a story. Thus my enthusiasm to post photos simply waned.

I think the idea of changing the structure of the AFCA website is an excellent one and in really straight speaking, is long over due.
There is one very well organised fan website which has stolen a march on AFCA maybe because of the rather chaotic structure we have. I would point our members to the History Marelli Fan web site here https://marellifan.wordpress.com/h/

This is extremely well thought out and has a very real logical structure. It is a wonderful data source on Marellis. I have a collection of Marellis but couldn't tell one from another in detail. Here the data is defined and dated. This is backed up by scans of brochures, history of development etc.
Yes we all have copies of old fan brochures but post them higgledy-piggledy throughout the Forum often answering multiple questions over time with posting re-copies of the same brochures.

So why not have sections established for each fan maker with a standardised  format or structure where experts in that particular fan can help infill the boxes with data, photos etc.? And, why not have a separate site referee responsible for maintaining the integrity of each section, of course changes to the structure to be made by a single site controller?

A timeline spreadsheet as in the marellifan website example is very cleverly laid out. Something like this would save Kim Frank having to republish his encyclopaedic knowledge of GE fans each time there is a question from a collector.

Another thought, "What is the law on copyright" when other people post pictures of fans on their own website. I will often download their images and save it for my own personal database. I notice that Pinterest trawls the internet and posts from other sources including AFCA pictures. If we restrict such photos that we find interesting from other websites to the members only section in the Galleries would we avoid copyright infringements? Come to think of it, how does Pinterest avoid copyright themselves? I, for example, have downloaded dozens of photos of antique German fans for my own personal database and would love to share them with other members.

And just one final point. Ebay is an important source of knowledge on fan values. Why can't we make screen shots of completed sales (or even "Buy it now" offers) and store them in a file which can be accessed by members. These screenshots will carry a date and one will be able to follow price trends. Surely eBay cannot claim copyright as they are published globally?

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Pete Moulds wrote: Initially, when I joined AFCA, my enthusiasm led me to post photos of my first few fans in the 'Galleries' section but I gradually recognised that there was nobody else posting photos in the non US made fans section.
Frankly the galleries section is an excellent concept but the sections I was viewing are just not well organised and don't have structure or tell a story. Thus my enthusiasm to post photos simply waned.

I think the idea of changing the structure of the AFCA website is an excellent one and in really straight speaking, is long over due.
There is one very well organised fan website which has stolen a march on AFCA maybe because of the rather chaotic structure we have. I would point our members to the History Marelli Fan web site here https://marellifan.wordpress.com/h/

This is extremely well thought out and has a very real logical structure. It is a wonderful data source on Marellis. I have a collection of Marellis but couldn't tell one from another in detail. Here the data is defined and dated. This is backed up by scans of brochures, history of development etc.
Yes we all have copies of old fan brochures but post them higgledy-piggledy throughout the Forum often answering multiple questions over time with posting re-copies of the same brochures.

So why not have sections established for each fan maker with a standardised  format or structure where experts in that particular fan can help infill the boxes with data, photos etc.? And, why not have a separate site referee responsible for maintaining the integrity of each section, of course changes to the structure to be made by a single site controller?

A timeline spreadsheet as in the marellifan website example is very cleverly laid out. Something like this would save Kim Frank having to republish his encyclopaedic knowledge of GE fans each time there is a question from a collector.

Another thought, "What is the law on copyright" when other people post pictures of fans on their own website. I will often download their images and save it for my own personal database. I notice that Pinterest trawls the internet and posts from other sources including AFCA pictures. If we restrict such photos that we find interesting from other websites to the members only section in the Galleries would we avoid copyright infringements? Come to think of it, how does Pinterest avoid copyright themselves? I, for example, have downloaded dozens of photos of antique German fans for my own personal database and would love to share them with other members.

And just one final point. Ebay is an important source of knowledge on fan values. Why can't we make screen shots of completed sales (or even "Buy it now" offers) and store them in a file which can be accessed by members. These screenshots will carry a date and one will be able to follow price trends. Surely eBay cannot claim copyright as they are published globally?
This. You’ve got great ideas. Pete. I’ve also been disappointed at times in the incomplete nature of the gallery. Some fans aren’t in chronological order. The members only price guide is a great idea too. I know I’ve approached a sale with less than the required resources before due to being an inexperienced newer member. I can personally say that feature would be very helpful for newer members.

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As a new member, I'm totally on board with a price guide with a rating system similar to old cars and trucks. Not having the experience of buying, I had to look at completed sales on places like eBay which can be deceptive when you have two bidders in a price war resulting in an inflated ending bid. I do understand that a rating system could be tricky as far as pricing a fan when lets say, it's a rarer model and make, but with parts missing or not running, but a newbie such as me, would have a basis to go by and how much to spend or not spend.



The other area that needs an upgrade IMHO is the Gallery as far as good clear larger pictures, unless I'm not doing it right to view them.



With all this said, this site is a gold mine of information and help. One thing I do a LOT is use the "search" feature, which has answered a ton of questions, so I'm not repeating the same question here, but at times there is no clear answer, so yes, I ask it.



my 2 cents.......




Don

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I'm in agreement with Pete as well. I also like the concept of a value database, as though we all love it, the Collector's Guide to Electric Fans is 20 years old at this point and doesn't factor years of internet values.

One other point I would like to make is that while some of our information be kept to members, such as values and potentially copyrighted material, that we make a generous amount available to the public as evidence of our organization's dedication. Many years ago I ran a Wiki called Model Number with an intention of a Wikipedia-like site for objects and products. Openness was key for contributions then and I believe remains now.

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Agreed. I have a ton of antique desk and ceiling pictures I've taken with my high-end photography gear that I'd like to share, but the system on this site is rather antiquated.

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Keep the ideas coming... We are always looking for members to take on projects! If you have any ideas you would like to take on in the future just submit your ideas to the board and keep in mind this stuff takes time! 

Geo...

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Thanks to everyone for your information and thoughts.

George said: “Dan has some good ideas as well as others and these things will be looked at by the board and can be implemented after the web page changes are made... This stuff takes awhile to get done as everyone is part time.”
I believe we now have a good discussion started concerning our need to have a better organized manner for the collection and storage of a portion of the vast amount of knowledge concerning fan companies and what they manufactured. 

I also believe that it is essential to let our “Brainstorming” session continue for a few weeks or perhaps longer in order to expose additional thought processes and then perhaps we can narrow the focus and extrapolate the best ideas that come from this “Brainstorming Session”. After this process, then we can perhaps advise our Board of Directors as to how we would like to proceed and they could in turn decide what portion of our thoughts are doable for implementation and what are not.

Perhaps one of the keys to the success of a good “Knowledge Base” is “presentation”. Isn't it essential that we need a format that is easy to navigate because and as an example: when we get to the Emerson fan company we are going to have an “information overload” issue if the presentation format is not managed correctly. We need to establish a standardized presentation format. There are literally thousands of formats that can show us what we need, but I propose that we design one of our own.

We currently have 80+ companies represented in the “American Fan Gallery” and some 25 companies represented in the “Non-American Fan Gallery” then many others listed in these categories: Ceiling Fans, Box Fans, Specialty Fans, Mounted Fans, Hi-Res Photos - Fan Movies and Animations, and Catalogs & Advertising. Having stated these statistics it goes without saying that it will be essential to have a standardized presentation format and a system in place that will be easily navigated. 

I have several other thoughts I would like to suggest when the time comes like:
1. suggestions on how to make the selection of what information per company is best to post
2. what would be the best method to list advertising
3. suggestions of fan galleries improvement
4. how to best list links
5. how best to select and post new information
6. other


Thanks ~ Dan







 

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Dan, you started a great conversation that has been needed for a while now. Thank you.


Lots of good ideas are being expressed here and our board is aware of the need for change.  The biggest need for this to work well is to know what we want in a model website.  We need a blueprint to work from, a goal to reach.  We won't know if we reach our goal if we don't know what the goal is in the first place.


So, let's be certain we approach this in an orderly way.

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GET RID OF FACEBOOK FIRST!!!!

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Charlie Forster wrote: GET RID OF FACEBOOK FIRST!!!!

I’m not on FB, but I’m curious why you would say this?

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Who is the current webmaster

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Russ Huber wrote: Who is the current webmaster
Larry Hancock is still listed as the webmaster though I recall him stepping down earlier this year. He solicited a replacement but none has been announced, to the best of my memory.

George, is there a new webmaster?

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The newest magazine tells about the webmaster. 😉

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Steve Butler wrote: The newest magazine tells about the webmaster. 😉
Oh, good.  I’ll have to watch my mailbox for it.

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The gentleman's name is Jamie Horner... He and Larry are working together to make a smooth transition... I understand this will be in the new magazine coming out... At this time I cant give any more info as I do not know it... There are changes coming and we need to be patient! As a fan collector I wondered why things dont happen quickly... The answer is really simple... We all love fans and the friendships we build in this hobby! And we are all part time, Part Time!... So things take time... There is a surprisingly huge amount of work involved to make what seems like a simple thing to do, is in fact not so simple... We ask anyone who knows a better way to do anything and thinks there is an easier way to do anything please let us know... Be prepared to answer your own question and or volunteer to fix it! After this transition there will be a lot of things for the board members to consider with your inputs... Keep the ideas coming! We are all in this together...   Be Polite in all suggestions you have... What may seem like a bad idea to you, may not be a bad idea at all...Harry Truman once said getting things done in government is like two elephants making love... Theres a lot of grunting and groaning, it's done on a high level, and it takes two years to show results!😊😊


Geo...:bow:bigfan

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The reason I say Face book has to go is it is not secure ,There is more but I wont put it out now.
THE AFCA  SERVER IS ON A FACEBOOK SERVER.

We have things that need to be updated and made more user friendly .
There is forums that have more technical information posted and you do not have to be a paying member!!
One forum has one thread that has 6 million hits
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Younger Jamie Horner.

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Todd Adornato wrote: Charlie Forster wrote: GET RID OF FACEBOOK FIRST!!!!

I’m not on FB, but I’m curious why you would say this?
I am not an active user of Facebook either, but there is a Facebook community for fan collectors. I think Charlie share my fear that I am missing on a lot in the fan world by not doing the Facebook thing, though I do actually have a Facebook profile; I just don't regularly go on there.

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FWIW...until these changes are implemented, If you want to access history and image posts you don't even have to be on the website. You can google for example: "Gaylord Circulator Kearns" ,"Eck fan motor Huber",  "Westinghouse Riviera Kreiner" ...etc.  


I do not have a database of information and images on computer as some member do. On top of that I am having more difficulty retrieving from the constantly evolving Google format for patents and books. Grab what you can from past post images and book full reads and page images while they are still active in cyber space.


  

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Russ some times it better if you are not on the site to find what you are looking for.

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George Durbin wrote: ...two elephants making love... Theres a lot of grunting and groaning...

:pissed What?...   And no embedded video?  :shock:   :P

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Charlie Forster wrote: GET RID OF FACEBOOK FIRST!!!!


I dont have facebook, likely for same reasons as you,  but will say that many users are part of groups and follow hashtags, so when someone posts a fan and uses #VintageFan or #BrassFan #AFCA it can eventually lead back to other images for people that may be curious and that drives people to the facebook group. If you would like more people interested in fans then this is instrumental. The key is drive facebook users back to this site.

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Chris A. Campbell wrote: The key is drive facebook users back to this site.
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Charlie Forster wrote: Jamie Horner
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The reason I say Face book has to go is it is not secure ,There is more but I wont put it out now.
THE AFCA  SERVER IS ON A FACEBOOK SERVER.

We have things that need to be updated and made more user friendly .
There is forums that have more technical information posted and you do not have to be a paying member!!
One forum has one thread that has 6 million hits
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I don't know where you're getting your information, but the AFCA Server is NOT on a Facebook server. That would cost the club several hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a part of, if not millions. Now if you're referring to the AFCA Page on Facebook, that is part of the server, but has nothing to do with the AFCA server. The only thing that does, is give information to a younger generation of fan collectors and redirects them back to our site. And if we're being completely honest folks, Facebook is outdated (which yes I see that makes me outdated). Kids are using snapchat, instagram, reddit and other social media apps. I'm going to have to agree with Greg, change is inevitable. You either get on board, or get left on the dock. Getting rid of the Facebook page would only alienate this club more. 


I've been in contact with Jamie, and as George said things are moving along as they should be. Jamie is a great guy, with a lot of great ideas. Be patient, change is inevitable, no matter how long it takes.

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Ed Frank wrote: Charlie Forster wrote: Jamie Horner
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The reason I say Face book has to go is it is not secure ,There is more but I wont put it out now.
THE AFCA  SERVER IS ON A FACEBOOK SERVER.

We have things that need to be updated and made more user friendly .
There is forums that have more technical information posted and you do not have to be a paying member!!
One forum has one thread that has 6 million hits
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I don't know where you're getting your information, but the AFCA Server is NOT on a Facebook server. That would cost the club several hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a part of, if not millions. Now if you're referring to the AFCA Page on Facebook, that is part of the server, but has nothing to do with the AFCA server. The only thing that does, is give information to a younger generation of fan collectors and redirects them back to our site. And if we're being completely honest folks, Facebook is outdated (which yes I see that makes me outdated). Kids are using snapchat, instagram, reddit and other social media apps. I'm going to have to agree with Greg, change is inevitable. You either get on board, or get left on the dock. Getting rid of the Facebook page would only alienate this club more. 


I've been in contact with Jamie, and as George said things are moving along as they should be. Jamie is a great guy, with a lot of great ideas. Be patient, change is inevitable, no matter how long it takes.
Well said Ed.

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The info we got was from our internet provider when he 



could not  get in to the website EITHER


The provider is one of the major  phone companys.


We had to use a proxy server to get on the AFCA website.

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Russ Huber wrote: "Gaylord Circulator Kearns" 

  


Pretty sure the wife will have a few questions for me if she sees this in the computer search history Russ...


 


Aside from this, can't wait to see who gets to decide what prices are fair for what...

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Ed Frank wrote:... if we're being completely honest folks, Facebook is outdated (which yes I see that makes me outdated). Kids are using snapchat, instagram, reddit and other social media apps.


Good point Ed. I'm the creator and moderator of r/fans on Reddit. We have ~620 subscribers at last count. I try to drive people over to the AFCA when they show a big interest in antique fans or have questions which that group can't answer. One big difference there though is that I don't require the discussion be limited to antique fans. Many of the questions are about what modern fan to buy for different use cases, but I digress.

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Michael Rathberger wrote: Russ Huber wrote: "Gaylord Circulator Kearns" 

  


Pretty sure the wife will have a few questions for me if she sees this in the computer search history Russ...

 

Aside from this, can't wait to see who gets to decide what prices are fair for what...


https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNRJ2tdvzaG8Hfn3Gt4VyDSopO1I1A%3A1568178732941&source=hp&ei=LIJ4XZ6CN4-IsQWJm5i4DQ&q=gaylord+circulator+kearns&oq=gaylord+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0l9.2015.6062..9054...0.0..0.91.628.8......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0i67.Sy7OBWsqX-U

The fans are all worth a Hunert thou... :clap:

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Russ Huber wrote: Michael Rathberger wrote: Russ Huber wrote: "Gaylord Circulator Kearns" 

  


Pretty sure the wife will have a few questions for me if she sees this in the computer search history Russ...

 

Aside from this, can't wait to see who gets to decide what prices are fair for what...


https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNRJ2tdvzaG8Hfn3Gt4VyDSopO1I1A%3A1568178732941&source=hp&ei=LIJ4XZ6CN4-IsQWJm5i4DQ&q=gaylord+circulator+kearns&oq=gaylord+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0l9.2015.6062..9054...0.0..0.91.628.8......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0i67.Sy7OBWsqX-U

The fans are all worth a Hunert thou... :clap:

Only when I sellem they are worth a hunnert thou! When I buy them you will be lucky to get $5.95 for one! 😁😊😂🤣

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Gunner Lake wrote:





Good point Ed. I'm the creator and moderator of r/fans on Reddit. We have ~620 subscribers at last count. I try to drive people over to the AFCA when they show a big interest in antique fans or have questions which that group can't answer. One big difference there though is that I don't require the discussion be limited to antique fans. Many of the questions are about what modern fan to buy for different use cases, but I digress.




Gunner, I have always though that the "Antique" portion of our AFCA name is limiting, as there are collectors of all years of fans, just not the hundred year old ones. Perhaps someday we'll become the Fan Collectors Association. When we host the Ceiling Fan Kids meet here at the Museum, I find it interesting that the fans for sale/trade are 1960 thru the Present day and that some get excited by a 12 inch push button Panasonic fan.


On another note, I see that you live in Jacksonville Fl. Has a Randy Wright ever crossed your path?

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Dan Wyatt wrote: I will preface my remarks by saying that I believe that the AFCA is a great organization with a lot of great people, activities, forums, reference material both written & in picture form, and the list goes on and on.

 I meant to state this yesterday and completely forgot. Jamie and I have been talking for quite sometime about reorganization of the website. With those talks, the discussion of a "Wikipedia" style page has come up. It would not be Wikipedia, but a private fan-wiki if you will. It would be on the website as a page you clicked on, you would look up the info you needed and there it would be. And just like Wikipedia, you can add your own information, but everyone would be able to see what you added and who added it. Only Members would be able to add things, but guests would be able to view it. This way if you go into the gallery and click on a GE Coin-Op it will take you to the wiki-page for that fan (if there is something written on the GE Coin Op) as one example of many. I hope that quells some of this discussion.

Again, please don't assume this is happening today, tomorrow or maybe even in the next year, but it's in the works. I hope you all are as excited as I am. A Fan-Wiki alone would do wonders for the site, and that's not the only thing we have planned. Again, once Jamie does take over, please be nice he's a great guy, extremely knowledgeable and the best part is he's a fan collector!

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