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 Posted: Wed Sep 11th, 2019 04:58 pm
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Charlie Forster
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ALL WEB SITS NEED TO BE UPDATED FROM TIME TO TIME.
IT WOULD BE GOOD IF ALL THE STUFF FOR THE ANTIQUE  ON ONE PAGE AND THE VINTASGE ON THE OTHER .
 Make it USER Friendly!!!

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 Posted: Thu Sep 12th, 2019 02:17 am
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Kim Frank wrote: Gunner Lake wrote:





Good point Ed. I'm the creator and moderator of r/fans on Reddit. We have ~620 subscribers at last count. I try to drive people over to the AFCA when they show a big interest in antique fans or have questions which that group can't answer. One big difference there though is that I don't require the discussion be limited to antique fans. Many of the questions are about what modern fan to buy for different use cases, but I digress.




Gunner, I have always though that the "Antique" portion of our AFCA name is limiting, as there are collectors of all years of fans, just not the hundred year old ones. Perhaps someday we'll become the Fan Collectors Association. When we host the Ceiling Fan Kids meet here at the Museum, I find it interesting that the fans for sale/trade are 1960 thru the Present day and that some get excited by a 12 inch push button Panasonic fan.


On another note, I see that you live in Jacksonville Fl. Has a Randy Wright ever crossed your path?


Let’s keep in mind that technically “Antique” is anything 25 years or older. 

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There is a cut off time and it is 1950

Antique 1800 - 1950    Vintage 1950- 2002                                                          AFTER 2002 JUNK
THIS MAY NOT BE RIGHT WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD BUT IT SHOULD WORK FOR
THE FAN CLUB
WE COULD CALL IT CLASS 1  AND CLASS 2



LANE 25 YRS IS MAINLY FOR AUTOMOBILES

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Lane Shirey wrote:

Let’s keep in mind that technically “Antique” is anything 25 years or older. 





I'm not of that opinion. To me, an antique is 100 years or older and vintage is after that. Charlie related that cars are designated antiques after 25 years and I understand that, but a 1994 vehicle just isn't an antique to me, it's a daily driver. And Charlie's remark of anything after 2002 is Junk is wrong. There's a lot of crap that was made long before that date. Here is a 2002 Casablanca Moderne that puts most fans made after 1950 to shame. The fit, finish, and quality of this fan is remarkable. And it weighs in at 29 pounds...not too shabby for a 13.5 inch oscillating fan..









Lane Shirey wrote:



Let’s keep in mind that technically “Antique” is anything 25 years or older. 






I'm not of that opinion. To me, an antique is 100 years or older and vintage is after that. Charlie related that cars are designated antiques after 25 years, but a 1994 vehicle just isn't an antique to me. And Charlie's remark of anything after 2002 is Junk is wrong. Here is a 2002 Casablanca Moderne that puts most fans made after 1950 to shame. The fit, finish, and quality of this fan is remarkable. And it weighs in at 29 pounds...not too shabby for a 13.5 inch oscillating fan

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I’ve found that the word “antique” is largely subjective and highly dependent on what you are collecting. As Lane said, with cars, anything over 25 is an antique. For furniture, 100 years or older is an antique. My friend, a TV collector, has said anything over 50 is considered an “antique”.

My point is it completely depends on what’s being collected. I personally like the pre and post 1950 cut off because there seems to have been a seriously radical shift in styling and construction around then whereas before everything seemed a bit more gradual.

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I own dinner plates used every evening purchased 23 years ago at Bed Bath & Beyond. They are modern looking and far “Antique”. Guarantee you in 2 years people will not view them as antique

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All good discussions... It would be nice to have an area in the forum to go to for the best info available on a fan at this time... Not to be changed or messed with by forum and membership unless agreed upon... I am only talking about The fan itself, its origin years made or produced. Variants and numbers made... A lot of this stuff is not known yet! But to have an area where a new member can go to get the latest info would be a good feature and should be a feature tied into club membership... I am not kidding anyone when I say this would be a huge undertaking by membership as everyone is part time... So it will be an incremental process... I am not talking about paint you use, oil or grease you may use  or what is a restore, rewire, oil and lube..  And we should include "Patina" Dunno who she is but we need to set her down and explain we R not happy with her... 
[size= I had a discussion last night  with several members about what is a wiki area going to look like? I am old school and am not sure what a WIKI is... At this point we have time to talk about what we want our site to be and what it will become... ]
[size=Right now we R working on getting the site more up to date and protecting our club with branding and securing our logos... So be patient... There are no bad ideas and I am seeing some good stuff on here and remind everyone not to get hung up in semantics...]
[size=It is just fans! And we R doing a pretty good job with our club...]
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Kim Frank wrote: Lane Shirey wrote:

Let’s keep in mind that technically “Antique” is anything 25 years or older. 




I'm not of that opinion. To me, an antique is 100 years or older and vintage is after that. Charlie related that cars are designated antiques after 25 years and I understand that, but a 1994 vehicle just isn't an antique to me, it's a daily driver. And Charlie's remark of anything after 2002 is Junk is wrong. There's a lot of crap that was made long before that date. Here is a 2002 Casablanca Moderne that puts most fans made after 1950 to shame. The fit, finish, and quality of this fan is remarkable. And it weighs in at 29 pounds...not too shabby for a 13.5 inch oscillating fan..



Lane Shirey wrote:



Let’s keep in mind that technically “Antique” is anything 25 years or older. 






I'm not of that opinion. To me, an antique is 100 years or older and vintage is after that. Charlie related that cars are designated antiques after 25 years, but a 1994 vehicle just isn't an antique to me. And Charlie's remark of anything after 2002 is Junk is wrong. Here is a 2002 Casablanca Moderne that puts most fans made after 1950 to shame. The fit, finish, and quality of this fan is remarkable. And it weighs in at 29 pounds...not too shabby for a 13.5 inch oscillating fan

 

Kim, please delete these photos ASAP -- if the wife sees it I'm gonna have to get one...

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Well we can just do away  with the division and have   1 one class     Fans!!!
Kim Ididnt see that  fan in my Walmart .

                                                     FANS     2 GROUPS
                                     0  TO 1950                     1950   -TO  2030

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That Casablanca is a nice fan. Probably be around in 50 or 100 years for my great grand kids to collect. I think it is a discontinued model.


I think our name...Antique Fan Collectors Association might intimidate some of the newer fan collectors..not newbies but newer fans...Perhaps we should just be Fan Collectors Association because isn't that what we are, after all?

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Honestly, I think the Casablanca is more the exception than the rule. You can still find good modern fans, but they are few and far between. I don’t believe the Chinese plastic fans at Walmart will ever survive to be collectible. 

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Kim Frank wrote: I think our name...Antique Fan Collectors Association might intimidate some of the newer fan collectors..not newbies but newer fans...Perhaps we should just be Fan Collectors Association because isn't that what we are, after all?

I agree with Kim on the name topic.  We have them subdivided in our forum to include both antique and vintage. We have people who collect up into the 60s, 70s and beyond. We either embrace all collectors or we alienate a large portion of them.  I think we may be doing the latter already. We wouldn’t be the first FCA by any means but we could be the first to welcome a greater realm of collectors if we choose to.




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Kim Frank wrote: ...On another note, I see that you live in Jacksonville Fl. Has a Randy Wright ever crossed your path?

He hasn't. I don't do much local buying though and also go after later fans than he buys/sells. I'm not much a of a brass guy. :wondering:

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Sean Campbell wrote: Honestly, I think the Casablanca is more the exception than the rule. You can still find good modern fans, but they are few and far between. I don’t believe the Chinese plastic fans at Walmart will ever survive to be collectible. 

People probably thought that about the Bersted / Eskimo fans in the 50s and 60s, yet there's still a million of 'em. :P

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I prefer "Fan-a-holics Anonymous" myself........as I clearly am addicted and cannot stop.

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Greg Mauer wrote: Kim Frank wrote: I think our name...Antique Fan Collectors Association might intimidate some of the newer fan collectors..not newbies but newer fans...Perhaps we should just be Fan Collectors Association because isn't that what we are, after all?

I agree with Kim on the name topic.  We have them subdivided in our forum to include both antique and vintage. We have people who collect up into the 60s, 70s and beyond. We either embrace all collectors or we alienate a large portion of them.  I think we may be doing the latter already. We wouldn’t be the first FCA by any means but we could be the first to welcome a greater realm of collectors if we choose to.


For what it's worth, I like some of the ideas here, like the Wiki pages, this one I don't. The reason is simple, we don't collect fans, we collect antique -- and vintage granted -- fans, but most people don't know the nuance between the two anyway. I've been to enough "antique" shows to know. You make it "fan collector" and you'll have people asking questions about how to fix the fan they bought at wally world last week.


 


My first fans were a Sterling and Dominion. As I learned, I aspired -- much like my unacomplished goal breaking 40 on a side -- to collect the brass fans, then a little better brass fans, but that's where my interests are. I've watched people here collect box and industial fans and noticed they also  -- at times-- proceed to collect the unique in this line. It's a choice where you go with your collecting, but at the end of the day, we're not collecting just fans.

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Don Fenton wrote: I prefer "Fan-a-holics Anonymous" myself........as I clearly am addicted and cannot stop.


Uh oh!  Do we need to have an intervention? We can test you this way... Just give me 4 or 5 of your best fans... If you can live without them, u R cured! What ya think?😊😂🤣😁😁

Geo...

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George Durbin wrote: Don Fenton wrote: I prefer "Fan-a-holics Anonymous" myself........as I clearly am addicted and cannot stop.


Uh oh!  Do we need to have an intervention? We can test you this way... Just give me 4 or 5 of your best fans... If you can live without them, u R cured! What ya think?😊😂🤣😁😁

Geo...
 
I'm in George........just pay me twice what I paid and I'll be set free!! :bigfan

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Michael Rathberger wrote: Greg Mauer wrote: Kim Frank wrote: I think our name...Antique Fan Collectors Association might intimidate some of the newer fan collectors..not newbies but newer fans...Perhaps we should just be Fan Collectors Association because isn't that what we are, after all?

I agree with Kim on the name topic.  We have them subdivided in our forum to include both antique and vintage. We have people who collect up into the 60s, 70s and beyond. We either embrace all collectors or we alienate a large portion of them.  I think we may be doing the latter already. We wouldn’t be the first FCA by any means but we could be the first to welcome a greater realm of collectors if we choose to.


For what it's worth, I like some of the ideas here, like the Wiki pages, this one I don't. The reason is simple, we don't collect fans, we collect antique -- and vintage granted -- fans, but most people don't know the nuance between the two anyway. I've been to enough "antique" shows to know. You make it "fan collector" and you'll have people asking questions about how to fix the fan they bought at wally world last week.

 

My first fans were a Sterling and Dominion. As I learned, I aspired -- much like my unacomplished goal breaking 40 on a side -- to collect the brass fans, then a little better brass fans, but that's where my interests are. I've watched people here collect box and industial fans and noticed they also  -- at times-- proceed to collect the unique in this line. It's a choice where you go with your collecting, but at the end of the day, we're not collecting just fans.


I agree 100% Mike. Couldn’t have said it better.

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Sean Campbell wrote: I don’t believe the Chinese plastic fans at Walmart will ever survive to be collectible.
Who of us haven't seen those
white plastic POS's at the curb
for trash pick up?   :wondering:



( hasn't ? )

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But never an Edison

ironclad!...   :X   :P

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Don Fenton wrote: I prefer "Fan-a-holics Anonymous"

  :idea  Some may think...

"Fan Dorks Anonymous"

would be applicable.  :thumbup


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Jim
We are wondering  if you really do have any  fans  ??

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Hello All, I was taking a quick look through this discussion and am aware of all the issues everyone is raising. Larry and I just recently had a conversation exchanging some ideas and some history.

Ed Frank is correct about Facebook and their servers. We are not on those servers. In fact, most of the Facebook servers reside in the town in which I currently live, but that's another story.

George is also correct. We are all part-time and extensive changes/updates/ideas will take time to implement (think tortoise versus hare), so please be patient as I learn the ins and outs of everything.

To reassure everyone, no changes will be made without the Board's approval. I'm not volunteering to make decisions or changes of my own volition without approval by the Board. I'm hoping to help the Board and the members realize some things that they would like to have and to implement those in ways most beneficial to the organization.

There are a lot of good ideas out there and a lot of possibilities. I hope that I am able to help you all realize some of those.

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As someone who is probably the youngest one so far on this thread, allow me to present some thoughts:

The gallery should be organized and updated. The gallery is fundamentally a good idea, but is plagued with arcane information.

AFCA instagram/snapchat- I don't see the point. We have a good site that needs work, not a hip message. We collect fans because we enjoy them and meeting others, not to grow a social media presence.

Facebook is good- but not a substitute. I enjoy perusing the Facebook page, but the depth of discussions here I think is much greater. There's nothing wrong with having both.

The search feature should be more accurate. Often times, I search a particular model and come up with threads that share a letter, not the fan or anything remotely close. Possibly user error, but worth looking into.


I do understand this is a lot of work and I tip my hat to those who run this organization. These are simply ideas from what I've seen here over the past several years. As far as the vintage fans go (i.e. plastic) I'm less interested in that permeating the AFCA. I still have a few-they're not bad-but not worthy in my view of including in a collecting association. Likewise, it will be a sad day when a Prius shows up in the Petersen. I may have just whacked the hornet's nest but please take no offense.

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Tom Morel wrote: ...it will be a sad day when a Prius shows up in the Petersen.
A distinct possibility since the first Honda Accord built in the Marysville, Ohio factory was given floor space at the Henry Ford Museum.   I wonder what antique car was moved out to make room for the Honda.  You never know.

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On the forums and gallery  work something up and put it  so we can see and  go from that input.
Work something up  and let us look it over  and make some changes the  have a norther test and if good with the members  then you could submit it to the Overloads .

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The search function is, well the forum software would change it, so I won't bother. Let's just say it is lacking.

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Now that the dust has for the most part settled on my original post of the main topic titled "Idea - Better Organization of Vintage Fan Knowledge" I would like to again state that I along with a lot of others including current and past Board of Directors believe as I mentioned in my first post concerning this topic and I quote: "I believe we can better organize a portion of that vast amount of existing knowledge into a focused "knowledge base" "per company" in an easy to find "central location". Once that information is located and as time goes on we can always add "new" information to that "knowledge base" on a per fan company basis.

My quote from another post on this topic: : "I also believe that it is essential to let our “Brainstorming” session continue for a few weeks or perhaps longer in order to expose additional thought processes and then perhaps we can narrow the focus and extrapolate the best ideas that come from this “Brainstorming Session”. After this process, then we can perhaps advise our Board of Directors as to how we would like to proceed and they could in turn decide what portion of our thoughts are doable for implementation and what are not."

Here is a summary of several of the thoughts of mine and others on the AFCA and I want to say that in my discussions with several others off forum that we do not need to be in a hurry about solving some of these problems in the near future and that these ideas will take time to implement, but a lot of the work is already done concerning numerous company's knowledge bases. Here is the summary:

    1. There is a need to "better organize a portion of that vast amount of existing knowledge into a focused "knowledge base" "per company" in an easy to find "central location".

    I believe we can form "specific fan company committees" that are comprised of perhaps 5 or more people that are knowledgeable concerning a "specific fan company" that would:

    A. volunteer as a group to search our site and other sources of information if applicable and gather as George says, the "best info available on a fan at this time".

    B. create a simple format for all of these groups to use to insure continuity of fan topic presentation. Example: Company's name or names, History of company(s), perhaps list of historically significant dates, perhaps information sources, perhaps list of of patents, etc. I believe that our AFCA can come up with the format we need and then the "specific fan company(s)" committee could use the same format.........again this format would become universal and people that search for information can easily find it.

    As a note and as most of you know there are free conference calling sites on the web. I have used one of these sites for years concerning communicating with several groups in a free conference call atmosphere and they are extremely effective when it comes to sharing and organizing thoughts of a certain group or committee.

    C. I believe that after some time that the "specific fan company(s)" committee could then have a well organized compilation of information/knowledge that would then be posted on perhaps a new forum for members only for a few weeks so as the entire AFCA membership could then scrutinize the "specific fan company(s)" committee's "Knowledge Base" for correctness. After a period of a few to several weeks of examination and suggestions from the entire AFCA membership then I believe the "Knowledge Base" would be ready to submit to the Board of Directors for their comments and then placed in a "Air Master (or whatever company's name) Knowledge Base". I believe as do several others on our AFCA that this "Knowledge Base" should then be placed somewhere that the information/knowledge can easily be found and viewed by our AFCA members, but that this Knowledge Base can not be changed by anyone except the "specific fan company(s) committee" or by agreement with our Board of Directors.

Over the years, I have worked on several wiki committees and here is why I am opposed to attempting to organize and store our burgeoning accumulation of fan information/knowledge by means of a "wiki",a wikipedia, wikipedia style, a fan wiki, etc.

Let's first look at the definition of a “wiki” according to Merriam - Webster and I quote: "a website that allows visitors to make changes, contributions, or corrections."

Case in point: I maintain that our current 2 AFCA forums: Post-1950 (Vintage) - "General Discussions about Vintage Fans" and Pre-1950 (Antique) - "General Discussions about Antique Fans" are "General Discussions" and they in fact "allow visitors to make changes, contributions, or corrections" or by definition these 2 AFCA forums are "wikis". Even if you only allow "members" of the AFCA to "make changes, contributions, or corrections" to a specific "Knowledge Base" you are still going to have a greatly disorganized grouping of factual as well as "nonfactual" information much like we currently have.

After all if it were easily "changeable by any member" .......lets say that a member gets drunk some evening and posts a change in the "changeable format" of the "fan wiki" and says ......... all Emerson Junior prototypes were carefully developed by a hermit soothsayer who lived in Outer Mongolia and they were later manufactured in Kathmandu....and all serial numbers were stamped in Roman numerals.........WHEW ....... what are we going to do if that bunch of incorrect information sets in the Fan Wiki 3 months before someone notices the post?

Thanks ~ Dan who thinks we need a plan or plans and I will now kick the soap box back to the center of the room.

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Sounds like Dan has volunteered to take on this massive undertaking.

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That sounds like a plan.  put a rough draft up and let us nit pick it?

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Ed,

I never said it would be easy, but you have heard many times that "not many things in life that are worthwhile are easy".

I think with a fan company information format that is "standardized", a few dozen teams or committees of a few people each that are focused in gathering up most of the loose information/knowledge that exists "between the walls" of our AFCA concerning a particular fan, a few conference calls, extrapolating what needs to be placed on the particular fan company information format, etc. and that given a few years........ the "Knowledge Base" will be a quick reference for AFCA Members to find answers to most questions concerning their vintage fans.

I can't do it all, but I will do my part and I would venture to say that a great deal of our AFCA members will do theirs if it focuses on making our AFCA a better place to hang out and especially attract new membership. Let's ask ourselves .......... whatta we got to loose by making the knowledge we have more readily attainable?

I will close with a quote from a very wise man from Oklahoma by the name of Will Rogers and I quote:
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

It is my believe that if we "just set there" and don't improve our AFCA over the years .........we may just "get run over" by the numerous other fan web sites that are out there.

Thanks ~ Dan





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Charlie said: That sounds like a plan. put a rough draft up and let us nit pick it?Charlie,

I will gladly start a rough draft if the AFCA membership wants to move forward with some of our initial thoughts. This is not a Dan Wyatt project, but I think I speak for several of our members and this is going to need to be a team effort if it's gonna work.....then we can all nit pick those ideas and separate the good ones ........... kinda like my Grandma Moore use to tell me........ "boy... you gotta crank the handle on that cream separator to get the cream out of the milk"

Dan ~ who can still remember Grandpa Moore and I crankin that old White Mountain freezer with Grandma's recipe inside it usin pure cream, hand cracked walnuts, loads of pure sugar, lots of vanilla, and other goodies......whew ....not near as easy as buyin ice cream at the store, but Man-0-Man ......what a difference.


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Tbh, I’d love to be on the Menominee committee. :D

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Okay, here is a question, or rather a thought.

Should I keep all my posts about a particular fan in that post only?
Or should I break it down into stator issues, oscillator issues, rust, paint.....
Should all the photos of the fan go into one post?
I am thinking more of restoration photos of problems and solutions.
Maybe there should be sub forums for paint, electrical, mechanical, heck
I don't know, just throwing it out there

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Sean said: Tbh, I’d love to be on the Menominee committee.
Mark said: Okay, here is a question, or rather a thought
Ok ...... thank you gentlemen for your thoughts.

Sean... I have always admired your avatar and also the Menominee graphs in general ....... not to get to far off track because I only have 1 Menominee and it is a little 8" Type 150 AC DC. I know almost nothing about the Menominee company, but I can appreciate the industrial designer for this particular fan. I don't even remember where I picked it up and was going to sell it because it is really not what I collect, but I thought no I am keepin that little fan. I have three 35" Freshys and several other 24" to 30" cast aluminum bladed fans and I tend to collect and use the larger cast aluminum bladed air movers in my shed, but that little Menominee just "caught my eye" and the main reason it is setting 10" to the right of my 24" computer monitor in my shop that I call my shed.......is that I look at on occasion and appreciate the symmetry of the blades, the guard, the ball motor, etc. I turned it on once, but that little fan will probably set right there until I croak. During my first year of teaching back in 1971.......I taught drafting and design for a 1/2 day and metals, woodworking, etc. the last 1/2 day. I guess that I have to admit to liking some of my fans for no other reason than their design......I think the Silver Swans are toward the top of my list of good design .......I digress and must get back on track.

Mark..... You asked several questions and I am not the boss here, but my 2 cents worth is perhaps we could have links that would cross-link each other.........by that I mean for example we could take your work on Century S-3 restoration and perhaps use it as well as other Century S-3 restoration work on the AFCA site and after all of it was reviewed by the Century Fan Company Committee ...then perhaps post it below the main body of "Knowledge Base" of Century S-3 fans. After that information was posted then perhaps link your work on the Century S-3 stator, your wiring diagram, etc. and when someone clicked on that link it would submit it elsewhere in something related to perhaps general knowledge about stators, etc. We already have a great section of "Restoration and Repair" located here: http://www.fancollectors.org/info/restore.htm , but perhaps it can be added to and the same could go for painting tips and the list goes on. By making these efforts, we can sure make restoration work a bit easier for those that haven't been down that road before. As I believe you were talking about ....perhaps we could have a more in depth assemblage of restoration topics.....I try to post a lot of shop tips on our AFCA site to perhaps make a particular task a bit more simple, but I am faaaaaar from havin all of the answers..... I know nothing about nuclear fusion, calculus, and the list goes on and on, but I should have some answers related to shop work from over 60 years working with shop related topics and practices.

I hope that makes a little sense ~ Dan


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I really like this idea, and thank Dan for volunteering to spearhead getting this started. :D:D:D


This is kind of the best of all worlds as the Resource Pages would just be an aggregation of the posts from the Pre and Post forums.  We don't want to be in the business of stifling discussion, but we have lost some information that I considered valuable and the search function can be improved by having the specific archives. 


It really seems to me that we could move to the best of both worlds. 


I have collected an obnoxious amount of Century publications and history, but I'm really reticent to share my overly OCD collection without some kind of moderation making it into something that more rational people might find helpful.  I also don't want the many hundreds of hours I have spent with the Smithsonian resources, and my friends and fellow collectors who generously shared their fans, archives and time, to end up being sold on eBay as a booklet for $5.  I'm not sure how to resolve those issues, but I really think Dan has given us a good start.  Thanks


Brad

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There is a water mark that can be put on the or your information  that  will stop the theft of information and pictures.
I dont know how it is done. on another forum some stuff was stolen and involved some  big bucks.
I think that once the water mark is in place if you post it  it will have that mark on it.
The programmers will have to  figure that out .

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Yes, I believe the scam Charlie is referring to used images from our site of a Peerless Kickstart for an eBay add awhile back. Watermarks can actually be added to pictures in Photoshop or even MS Paint. Very easy.

Also, much thanks for spearheading this endeavor and the kind kind words Dan! :D Menominee design is surely unique and the history bizarre and mysterious. I enjoy them. X)

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