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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 05:17 pm
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Rick Powell
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A few weeks ago I sent a sample of Emerson 3 lead head wire to Tony Clayton and asked him if he could replicate it, a couple of weeks ago I received the wire and just finished using it on a Emerson 73648.  The wire is identical to the original but much more supple and heavier. If it sounds like I am plugging Tony’s products I am, I would like to see Tony continue having success and supply great wire.  Tony has produced other manufacturers wire and says he can reproduce any sample that’s sent to him.  Tony purchased an 100+ year old wire making machine and has spent the past few months mastering it, if originality is important to you his wire is a great alternative.







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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 05:18 pm
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Michael Rathberger
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Thanks Rick, nice option.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 07:36 pm
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I'll second that, Tony makes great stuff.

I'd like to see a repro of the deco wire that was used as headwire on the Vader fans. It was a neat design, unfortunately mine was too deteriorated to keep.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 07:49 pm
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What is the name of the company?

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Tony is indeed 1st rate!

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 08:22 pm
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Richard Daugird
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O.K. That's why I didn't find anything with Google. Thanks.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 08:33 pm
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Thanks Rick! I think the wire looks like it was there all along.


Andrew Block wrote: I'd like to see a repro of the deco wire that was used as headwire on the Vader fans. It was a neat design, unfortunately mine was too deteriorated to keep.
Andrew,
   I did give it ago with black and white as that is currently all I stock at the time. I would consider buying a dark brown if there is any interest. The machine hold 20,000 yards of cotton. Doing a two color would only require 10,000 in brown.





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Did Emerson’s 3-conductor head wire vary much over the years? I have a 24666 and a 71666 where the head wire is too far gone to reuse, and I was wondering if those head wires were similar to the one on Rick”s 73648.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 09:45 pm
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Tony, it appears you have done well with your wire reproduction project, congrats. I am sorry I lacked response for most part in your past messages you sent to me. I have not been buying wire for some time.

Based on your success, is it possible to set up a small website with a link in the restoration section displaying at least the standard wires and cost per foot and bulk spool? One example would be the cotton cloth braided black 18 gauge power wire, and the black cotton cloth sheathed 3 wire 18 gauge head cord. 

Much appreciated!  

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 10:08 pm
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Tony Clayton
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Hi Todd,

      I don't have the knowledge about the Emerson models you are asking about. Surely someone will chime in and have an answer. Is there any small portion of it still in tact to go by?


Todd Adornato wrote: Did Emerson’s 3-conductor head wire vary much over the years? I have a 24666 and a 71666 where the head wire is too far gone to reuse, and I was wondering if those head wires were similar to the one on Rick”s 73648.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 10:13 pm
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Thanks Rick. I'll use Tony for wire. Appreciate the referral!

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 10:35 pm
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Tony is making a stiff wire for the Emerson dc holders. This has been very difficult to find without his help

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 10:47 pm
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Tony Clayton wrote: Hi Todd,

      I don't have the knowledge about the Emerson models you are asking about. Surely someone will chime in and have an answer. Is there any small portion of it still in tact to go by?


Todd Adornato wrote: Did Emerson’s 3-conductor head wire vary much over the years? I have a 24666 and a 71666 where the head wire is too far gone to reuse, and I was wondering if those head wires were similar to the one on Rick”s 73648.

How much would you need of the original wire?  I might be able to salvage a couple inches. 

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:00 pm
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Russ,

  Yes I did. I'm a stubborn minded sole that doesn't give up without a fight. No worries we all have our paths that need our undivided attention. Sometimes the fans take second string.

  I have a full time job and this originally was a project I started on around 2 or so years ago to fulfill my need for wire not commercially available. After lots of time, trial, error and money spent, I succeeded. I was happy enough with my end result to give it a go to offer fellow fan friends to test drive. All feedback was great. I don't want it to end up being something I get over whelmed with and can't keep up. So at this time there is no web site and wire is strictly custom made to order. There is the cost of copper and then there is the cost of commercial cotton of which I had no idea of until I purchased the prototype white for testing. To give you an idea the machine holds 20,0000 yards of cotton. My supplier only offers white. All colors are considered special order even black to the tune of 43 spools per color at a cost of $600.00. This is why I currently only have black and white. I can for a small additional charge dye in other colors. All wire is sold per foot with a minimum of 12 foot per variation of wire and no set up fees. I do not have a bulk spool discount.
 To be honest, I really much prefer doing the small orders for the fan collector that needs that wire that no one else makes. Not that I can't, but at this time there is no web site or catalog. I am not trying to be compete with big business, I am just trying to provide wire for guys like me.  Here is  the email OldSchoolWire@gmail.com that you can contact me to ask questions or for a free no strings quote. I hope this answers you questions. Feel free to ask more If I missed something. 

Current pricing for 18AWG Twisted Overbraid is 2.49 per foot.


Russ Huber wrote: Tony, it appears you have done well with your wire reproduction project, congrats. I am sorry I lacked response for most part in your past messages you sent to me. I have not been buying wire for some time.

Based on your success, is it possible to set up a small website with a link in the restoration section displaying at least the standard wires and cost per foot and bulk spool? One example would be the cotton cloth braided black 18 gauge power wire, and the black cotton cloth sheathed 3 wire 18 gauge head cord. 

Much appreciated!  

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 Posted: Tue Oct 8th, 2019 11:01 pm
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Tony Clayton
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That would be enough Todd

Todd Adornato wrote: Tony Clayton wrote: Hi Todd,

      I don't have the knowledge about the Emerson models you are asking about. Surely someone will chime in and have an answer. Is there any small portion of it still in tact to go by?


Todd Adornato wrote: Did Emerson’s 3-conductor head wire vary much over the years? I have a 24666 and a 71666 where the head wire is too far gone to reuse, and I was wondering if those head wires were similar to the one on Rick”s 73648.

How much would you need of the original wire?  I might be able to salvage a couple inches. 

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Richard Daugird
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Tony, thanks so much for doing this to help keep our old fans alive! Next time I need wire, I'll be contacting you.

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Tony Clayton
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Richard,
Your welcome. I look forward to hearing from you.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2019 01:33 am
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As some of you know I will soon be giving it a shot at making Westinghouse/Tesla green silk headwire.This was my main desire for doing my own custom wire......soon to become a reality.
The silk is already in inventory and I will be giving it a go in the near future. My question to my fellow fan
collectors.............would any of you be interested in this done in cotton to see a very considerable price difference?
I have a idea of the price on the silk but can not confirm it until I have run the first prototype for a definite price.

Green twisted overbraid 18AWG cotton would a whole lot cheaper if this would be something anyone would be interested in. If anyone has interest please chime in. If your a no dues paying member and can't reply to the thread
email or PM me.


Tony

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Tony,


If I understand correctly, we're looking at some two wire silk overbraid in Westy green that would be for headwire, or power wire if one wanted to spend the money for perfection.  The green two wire cotton overbraid would be specifically for the power cord.  If I'm thinking about this correctly, then I'd definitely be in for some reasonable amount of headwire, and probably around 100 feet or so of the power wire.


Thanks for taking on this project, I know how some of these things become nightmares at times.


Jim

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Jim,

Yes real silk two conductor headwire. As we all know real silk is pricey stuff. My question was would anyone be interested in a cotton green headwire to make it more affordable? As for the line wire in cotton. I think that is readily available online. Myself being a very small operation I can't begin to compete with the big boys. I'm merely 
trying to do some things that you can't presently buy. This is the green silk.




Is this the style green cotton line wire you are speaking of?



If not please show me a example.

Thanks for your reply




Jim Humphrey wrote: Tony,


If I understand correctly, we're looking at some two wire silk overbraid in Westy green that would be for headwire, or power wire if one wanted to spend the money for perfection.  The green two wire cotton overbraid would be specifically for the power cord.  If I'm thinking about this correctly, then I'd definitely be in for some reasonable amount of headwire, and probably around 100 feet or so of the power wire.


Thanks for taking on this project, I know how some of these things become nightmares at times.


Jim


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Westy tanks were made well before the company supplied power cords for their fans wasn't it?   I believe that the selling dealer or shop would provide a suitable length of power cord or the buyer could supply his own cord.   In other words, there is nothing right or wrong as to what a power cord might look like or the length.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 16th, 2019 09:57 am
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Tony Clayton
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Agree Steve.

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OK, I got it now Tony.  I would definitely buy some quantity of the silk headwire.  Since I don't know the cost per foot, I guess I'd have to say I'd like 20 feet, which should be enough for at least 10 tank fans.  Now, if the price is going to be let's say $20 per foot, I'd probably buy less.  But as Steve pointed out, the tanks were from an era when the power wires were whatever the dealer had, so I'd just continue to use what I've already got.  Thanks, Tony.

Jim

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i could use some green 2 conductor head-wire also

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