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 Posted: Mon Jan 6th, 2020 12:01 am
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November of 97 electrical trade stating Menominee Electrical & Mechanical Co. is stating it will be relocating in Chicago.(last sentence in the image)



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Henry Tideman knows the business finances are in the red and makes a desperate attempt to boost fan sales and revenue with the full nickel plate Noxall(Menominee) fan motor 1898/99. 

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Feb. 26th 1900 Menominee Electrical & Mechanical Co. CEO Joseph Flesheim facing financial ruin and Bankruptcy puts a 32 caliber pistol to his 52 year old head and pulls the trigger.  It appears Henry's fancy full nickel plate dolphin base fans didn't save the company.


Joseph Flesheim (1847-1900) — of South Haven, Van Buren County, Mich.; Menominee, Menominee County, Mich. Born in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, 1847. Republican. Insurance business; president, Menominee Electric Company, manufacturer of telephone switchboards and equipment; mayor of Menominee, Mich., 1888; member of Michigan state senate, 1891-94 (31st District 1891-92, 30th District 1893-94). Member, Freemasons. Facing the failure of his business enterprises, he committed suicide by gunshot, in Menominee, Menominee County, Mich., February 26, 1900 (age about 52 years). Interment at Riverside Cemetery, Menominee, Mich.

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Roughly one month after Menominee CEO Flesheim commits suicide the Menominee concern goes into a Chicago receivers hands with intention of removal to Chicago

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In early May of 1900 Menominee prominent Robert Jennings saved the Menominee concern from certain removal to Chicago. Notice the plant has been inoperative since Flesheim commit suicide? Prior to the suicide?

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Very fascinating Russ! So what year did Jennings buy the company bail out the company?

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Sean Campbell wrote: So what year did Jennings buy the company bail out the company?
The beginning of May of 1900.

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By the 12th of May 1900 the newly formed Menominee Electric Mfg. Co. had been incorporated.

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Interesting. In that case i wouldn’t think this would have disqualified Menominee from making a few seasons worth of fans before the Zephyr. Has any proof ever been nailed down about the Menominee bipolar fans being continued after this point in catalogs or other documents? :wondering:

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Robert Jennings accepted the presidency for the company in 01 and by fan motor season of 02 a new Menominee DC desk & bracket fan motor was placed on the market known as the Zephyr.

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Sean Campbell wrote: Interesting. In that case i wouldn’t think this would have disqualified Menominee from making a few seasons worth of fans before the Zephyr. Has any proof ever been nailed down about the Menominee bipolar fans being continued after this point in catalogs or other documents? :wondering:
The old wooden factory built in 92 burned to the ground in Jan. of 05. This would of given the Zephyr a possible 3 seasons on the market 02-04. 


Fan motor manufacture 00 and 01 is unknown to date. The Powers Central Directories supports Menominee portable DC fan motors for 01-02 seasons. This however does not validate them on the market.

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May 1902 electrical trade.



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Great info as usual Russ. The Menominee story sure is interesting, but there seem to be fewer holes all the time. Do you know if anyone has found a Menominee Zephyr yet?

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A Menominee Zephyr fan motor placed on ebay would have a very high probability of the auction not reaching completion. That should help answer your question. :D

POTENTIAL Menominee fan motors especially in the years spanning 05-09 could take the fan collecting community by surprise. After the fire in early 05 the factory was moved to a building in Marinette until completion of the new factory in 07. Fan motor manufacture possible during these years...…? 

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 this explains why the NOXALL dolphin based bipolar is a unicorn.. with very few made and very few purchased they are more than likely extinct, supposedly they made 12s 14s and 16s... I need to borrow someone's time machine, for a couple hours,

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David A Cherry wrote:  this explains why the NOXALL dolphin based bipolar is a unicorn.. with very few made and very few purchased they are more than likely extinct, supposedly they made 12s 14s and 16s.
They were manufactured for at least 2 fan motor seasons, that being 98-99. I bet Menominee pumped out roughly 4 to 6 thousand of those finger choppers between 98-99.  Vance Electric was their east coast agency. The Electrical Appliance Co. was their Chicago, or Midwest agency. Tideman fan motor marketing was for most part early on to pump them out of the factory without a name and wholesale them in bulk to an agency who can claim them their own..  












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 With the Noxall fans actually put into service , I'd bet that the Dolphin Tails being cast iron , would be an easy break  :cry: with any significant trauma to the fan head and that would lead directly to the cast iron scrapyard. :X

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my thinking is that the dolphin castings were not specific to the fan they may show up on other items such as lamps, vases, punch bowls, etc..

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It’s only a matter of time before I find one of these fans in the wild and it’s going to be sitting on the shelf right next to the Milk bottle Mr. Steve Butler is looking for. Total cost will be under $50 for the pair! I can’t wait!

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