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 Posted: Wed May 20th, 2020 09:15 pm
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I'm told there will be fresh info coming out this year, which seems most appropriate on a centenary of sorts...



from http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/59075.html





 This is not to mislead, but to remind that this was a long-standing highly-productive relationship which went far beyond mere fan motors, pre-dating General Electric itself:





I'll continue to add tidbits through the year, as will a couple Others.....

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 Posted: Wed May 20th, 2020 09:28 pm
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 Posted: Thu May 21st, 2020 04:43 am
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https://books.google.com/books?id=XYOkDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq=frank+sprague+and+thomas+edison+were+contemporaries&source=bl&ots=du2rPOeozY&sig=ACfU3U33DuuU2B57BJ-XTK5Z9JZZLTlibA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjj5sWzkMTpAhXVbc0KHdqqDYkQ6AEwBnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=frank%20sprague%20and%20thomas%20edison%20were%20contemporaries&f=false

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 Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2020 03:15 pm
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                                                         "The Electrical World"   3 Sep 1887


















                                         Sprague Fan Dept.        34th St. (NY) Factory        1892



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 Posted: Sat May 23rd, 2020 03:49 pm
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Steve, way cool picture of the Lundell fan motor department.  Unfortunately the picture can date no earlier than 1898 if the name Sprague is connected to the image. Interior Conduit merged with Sprague Elevator in late 1897. The Lundell fan motors for the 97 fan motor season would have been tagged for Interior Conduit. IC Lundells span 92-97.

Thanks for sharing that image.

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 Posted: Sun May 24th, 2020 02:15 am
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That image is sweet! 👀 It isn’t 1892 though as Russ said: the Lundells in the photo have oil cups and the ‘92 models had ball bearings. I honestly wonder where the fan cages are. Even the ones being tested have no cages.

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Sean Campbell wrote:  I honestly wonder where the fan cages are. Even the ones being tested have no cages.



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Russ and Steve, you guys made my day! :clap:

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2020 02:10 pm
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  While I was busy the other day tracing people, companies, addresses and dates Russ bulls-eyed it with the 1895 original magazine article, solved the date and name questions in one fell swoop...           


   It's an excellent article for addressing this period of the Company's developmental history...


   The location citation with the photo was the only "correct" item, Edward H. Johnson was set up in 527 W. 34th St. at least by 1891, Sigmund Bergmann's facility.....


9 Nov 1923 Bloomfield Independent Press





16 May 1920   New York Herald

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2020 02:48 pm
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So what’s does the Sprague factory site currently look like? I’d imagine it’s been demolished, but it would be interesting to know when it happened and what the site currently looks like.

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   I looked into that the other day; 34th St. Manhattan is gone if that's what you're after. The manufactory at Watsessing (Bloomfield) still stands, but we're jumping ahead in the story now...   Since you asked:




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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2020 03:17 pm
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So the factory where the Lundell fans were made is till around!? :shock: That’s sweet! Is that the same factory from the old days of IC? If it’s not, when did the location change? 

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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2020 10:23 pm
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Great info, great pictures. Thanks for posting.

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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2020 07:01 am
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How can you spot a Lundell 92 or 93 desk fan motor with just a glance? Now that is, disregarding the 92 ball bearing feature compared to the 93 self adjusting bearings with oil cups.








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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2020 02:40 pm
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Russ Huber wrote: How can you spot a Lundell 92 or 93 desk fan motor with just a glance? Now that is, disregarding the 92 ball bearing feature compared to the 93 self adjusting bearings with oil cups.









The switch is mounted so the switch lever protrudes from under the guard 92-93.


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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2020 02:45 pm
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I spotted for first time in past a 94 Lundell desk fan image with the lever moved to the side. No doubt it took a couple of customer complaints with finger damage to get IC to move the lever to a safer spot.  :D


Ironically Eck's first fan motor under the Roth & Eck firm in 94 had the switch lever under the blade guard. Fact Jack.






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Roth & Eck desk fans(94-95) with under blade protruding switch levers.








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 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2020 02:51 pm
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Eck's first 96 desk fan motor exempt from the Roth & Eck firm not with the safety feature switch lever to the side. 

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