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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2021 07:34 pm
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Phillip L Clay
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Hi,We are having a local discussion that would benefit from your opinion.

From my research it appears from the GE catalogs that 16 inch pancake fans and many in the big motor era had blades with 3 rivets in a row.

Other think that as in later years two rivets were also used such as the fan in the gallery.

The blade on my  16 inch fan has two rivets so I am trying to determine if it is a substitute from a donor.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2021 07:35 pm
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Phillip L Clay
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Here is my blade

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Brice Nagelmaker
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interested in this too Phil as i have a 1902 16" pancake that has a later roundtip GE blade.  topic on fan  https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/61436.html  Found a 3 rivet blade listed as a Dayton and bought it. listed as same shaft size but wont know till i get my fan later this month. here is topic about the blade. https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/61573.html

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 Posted: Sat Jan 9th, 2021 11:48 pm
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Phillip L Clay
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Here is the 1906 catalog picture for 16 inch ac fans

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Phillip L Clay wrote: Here is the 1906 catalog picture for 16 inch ac fansGE was noted to have used older images in their catalogs.  That image is no later than 1905 if even that..  The very large cage badge was last used in 1902 I think (edit) on the early, fully ribbed base 1903 model.

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Brice Nagelmaker
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can you post side pic of hob/set screw Phillip? This is pic of Dayton 3 rivet hub

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Phillip L Clay
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I thought maybe this was an earlier blade but all the 16 inch fans in the catalogs has 3 rivets.Even one the first listing for the big motors in 1909 they are pictured that way, In the 1910 catalog they are shown with the three rivets in the triangle pattern

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Phillip L Clay
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Here is a side view pic of my blade. Hex set screw would be a later date

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Ted Kaczor
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All, 16" GE "Pancakes" had 3 large rivets in each of their blades. The larger (with flat flange about .300") cage "center" badge was also used in early variant of 1903 fully ribbed base 16" Pancake with cast spider hub and 4 struts. 

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Phillip L Clay wrote: Here is my bladebesides the 2 rivets per blade, 16" GE Pancakes had 3, this is not GE blades design, the hub isn't anything that the GE Pancake's was, also the allen set screw in the hub is modern, that tells me the thread pitch is not the one GE had either. 

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Phillip L Clay
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Thanks to all for the information. 

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Phillip L Clay
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Yes as I look closer it appears the center bearing was soldered.. I am guessing this was a homebrew replacement blade.

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As Ted said, that isn't a GE pancake blade. The first 16 inch GE pancake was the 1899 Type UI form A bracket fan. It used three rivets for each wing and was a cast brass hub. The 16 inch blade with both cast brass and stamped brass hub continued to use three rivets per wing thru 1908. The 1899 and later 12 and 14 inch GE cakes used 2 rivets per wing. All GE 10", 12", and 14" models from 1894 thru 1898 used three rivets per wing in a triangular pattern.

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