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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 03:22 am
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Russ Huber
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O.K. vintage people...Is anyone an authority on this machine? What year was it made? It has a G.E. motor near if not identical to my Lakewood box.

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I think those were made by Vernco, not 100% sure on that though.

BTW, Vernco bought out Signal in 1964.

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The box it came in says .....Simpson-Sears Limited.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Canada

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I have one just like it that has a Westinghouse motor, one heck of a fan.

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I just got done restoring it. No paint necessary, but she needed a good cleaning all the way through. I agree Mark, she is a solid machine. The thing is built like a 50s box, yet I would say it dates 70s to early 80s? Simpson-Sears was around for a while. There is no way it dates back to the 50s....the box advertising looks 70s-80s to me. Anyone see one in a Sears Roebuck catalog? :wondering:

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I would have to say 70's. I don't think these are 80's. Many fans in the 80's used Fasco motors instead of the G.E. ones. Hell of a fan you got there though.

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Thanks dudes. If someone comes up with the facts on her birth date please let me know. :up:

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MIDDLE TO LATE 60'S, GOT ONE IN THE BASEMENT MY GRANDMOTHER HAD AND THE RECEIPT SAYS SHE BOUGHT IT ON AUGUST 18, 1968.

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Russ,I got one just like it only that the guard is white (no box).I don't remember which motor mine has (Westinghouse,G.E. or Universial)I got it from my fan friend here in Jersey.He's pretty much an athourity on window/box fans as their mainly what he collects and he dated mine about 1964/1965.They are great fans and move tremendous amounts of air.Sears/Kemnore fans were just about the best fans back then and they still are today.

Hope this helps,Jeff...:cool:

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Thanks Ray, I was curious on this one, I would of never of guessed 60s. The motor used in my Lakewood aside from the plastic oiler tubes appears identical. The Lakewood I thought for sure no earlier than 70s?

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THEY WERE MADE A FEW YEARS, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER WITH DIFFERENT KNOBS THAN YOURS SO ITS A LITTLE EARILER, AND ITS A DARKER BROWN.

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Jeff Rusnak wrote:
Russ,I got one just like it only that the guard is white (no box).I don't remember which motor mine has (Westinghouse,G.E. or Universial)I got it from my fan friend here in Jersey.He's pretty much an athourity on window/box fans as their mainly what he collects and he dated mine about 1964/1965.They are great fans and move tremendous amounts of air.Sears/Kemnore fans were just about the best fans back then and they still are today.

Hope this helps,Jeff...:cool:


Well Jeff, nice to have you chime in. :D I don't collect these fans, but I buy them to pass them on if they catch my eye. :up: I bought this fan right out of anothers mans garage window. His wife had a garage sale going on and it was running in the window. I asked her if her husband was home, she said yes and called him into the garage. I offered jing for it on the spot, he told me to wait until he went to the basement to get the box. :D The box is chewed up and no good, but I took it anyway. You boys are right on...it is a nice fan. :up:

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RUSS,  IT SURE IS A BEAUTY, MINE IS NOT THAT GOOD, GRANNY USED IT DAY AND NIGHT IN THE KITCHEN AND WHEN SHE PASSED , WE WERE CLEANING OUT AND MY DAD SAID MIGHT AS WELL THROW THIS AWAY, IT SAID NO I WILL KEEP IT.

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Raymond Lowry wrote:
RUSS,  IT SURE IS A BEAUTY, MINE IS NOT THAT GOOD, GRANNY USED IT DAY AND NIGHT IN THE KITCHEN AND WHEN SHE PASSED , WE WERE CLEANING OUT AND MY DAD SAID MIGHT AS WELL THROW THIS AWAY, IT SAID NO I WILL KEEP IT.

FWIW...my Lakewood box fan I thought had bad bearings in it. Facts were is it developed to much rotor end play which made noise like bad bearings on medium speed. Don't know if your Grandmother's window fan is making noise or not. G.E. put a heck of oil felt packing around the bearing on those motors. If they're soaked in oil good the fan should run like a trooper for a h ell of long time between oiling.

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THE SEARS WINDOW FAN, I CANT FIND NO OIL HOLES, IT HAS A WESTY MOTOR. WE ALWAYS TOOK IT OUT AND PUT OIL DOWN THE SHAFT. I HAVE A LAKEWOOD JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE FOR SALE BUT ITS A 3 SPEED, IN MINT CONDITION. MAYBE SOMEDAY IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE STAND I SURE COULD USE IT, BUT I GUESS YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM AS A SET.

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Raymond Lowry wrote:
THE SEARS WINDOW FAN, I CANT FIND NO OIL HOLES, IT HAS A WESTY MOTOR. WE ALWAYS TOOK IT OUT AND PUT OIL DOWN THE SHAFT. I HAVE A LAKEWOOD JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE FOR SALE BUT ITS A 3 SPEED, IN MINT CONDITION. MAYBE SOMEDAY IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE STAND I SURE COULD USE IT, BUT I GUESS YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM AS A SET.

Huh...The Westy motor being no oilers I would be very confident it is a sealed ball bearing the rotor shaft rides on.

At first I thought the Lakewood box motor I have for sale was shot. When I fired it up for the first time it made a h ell of a racket. I found the blade to be loose on the rotor shaft. I then snugged it down and blew the dust bunnys and crude out of her motor and gave her some oil. She ran good except for a motor noise on medium. I then decided to sell it as is claiming bearing wear. Well after a few days listed what that noise was was bugging the crap out of me, I wanted to know what was going on. So we stopped the listing and I dug into the motor. Her bearings were sound, but even with the front motor bell snugged down the rotor had to much travel. All I did was put a fiber spacer front and back on her rotor shaft. She runs like downtown now Ray. If her motor would of been shot, I would of sold the stand separate. To seperate the two with the fan running fine would not make sense. I'm sure you can understand this. My Lakewood is a 3 speed as well with intake and exhaust. The fan and stands paint is pretty nice, all she needs is a replacement plastic breeze deflector to make her a sweety. :D

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Russ Huber wrote: I just got done restoring it. No paint necessary, but she needed a good cleaning all the way through. I agree Mark, she is a solid machine. The thing is built like a 50s box, yet I would say it dates 70s to early 80s? Simpson-Sears was around for a while. There is no way it dates back to the 50s....the box advertising looks 70s-80s to me. Anyone see one in a Sears Roebuck catalog? :wondering:http://fans.dangeroustacos.com/galleries/catalogs/Sears/index.htm
Check out 1961:cool:

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Thanks Zach. There are some changes that differ on mine from 61. I think Ray is right...mid to late 60s. Like I said...aside from its construction, I would of said 70s and no earlier.

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 Those blades have a Homart look to them.They were a big supplier to Sears Kenmore Brand.

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It is hard to tell the age, but by the knobs i would say early to mid sixties. in the 70's sears started using the terminology "tri speed" instead of "three-speed". what is odd is you have here the "deluxe" housing which was normally saved for the top of the line, but a 2 speed unit was the middle of the pack. These were all made by Vernco. The late 60's and 70's had the 2 speed units (either exhaust only or reversible with thermo) with a very slender housing and shallow blade, and the top line 3 speed reversible with thermo had a much deeper 3 wing blade (around 1974 a four bladed unit was also added),. Yours appears to be the deep housing with the slender blade and it sounds like a standard GE motor which was in lakewood and many other fans, so i am guessing this is 60's earlier before the shallow housing was created. The GE motors that powered the 3 speed units with a high level of torque were much bigger and high rpms so MED was like high speed on a normal fan, and the highest speed setting was like adding a turbocharger. this is a great find and the box is a good addition. good luck with it! tom

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Russ,

RE: the fan-

Your exact fan- 2 speed w/ Ge motor- was made from 1962 to 1964 with the GE motor and switch on the side. 

The design premired in 1961, with a Westinghouse Motor.  It was the Sears 75th anniversary model and was rated at 7300 CFM.  It was the top of the line Sears window fan- Model 9333. 

In 1962, a 2 speed model, such as yours, with GE motor became common.  It had blades, slightly smaller than the 9333.  This is basically your fan.  It was not the top of the line fan, as the top fan had wider blades and the Westinghouse 1/6 HP motor.  I do not have the model number of that fan.  I do know this fan was made, with side controls thru 1964. 

By 1965, the top of the line fan had a 3 sp, 1/6 HP Westinghouse motor, and side controls.  This was the model 9025. The other two direct drive Sears window fans did not have side controls.  The two speed reversible model, had the GE motor and controls in the bottom right corner of the fan,.  This was the model 9015.  The two speed, exhaust only fan had the switch on the motor, which was also a GE.  This was the model 9005.

Sears continued to sell the 9025 and 9015 through the early 1970s.  Model numbers may have changed, but fans weer same. 

In have attached a pic of a 9025 below.  Note the extra wide bladeset.. Like the 9333, it was rated at 7300 CFM.  Very powerful.

By the mid- late 1970s they had been replaced by Vernco made fans. 

So, to sum up- this design of fan was from 1961 'till around 1973.  Your exact fan is from 1962-1964. 

Information from 1961, 1962, 1965 Sears Summer catalogs and 1971 Sears Spring and Summer "big book" was referenced for this answer.

RE: the motor-  The GE "export" motor was manufactured from approx. 1961 thru approx. 1973.  It is know to have been used in the manufacture of the following box, window and high velocity fan makes:

Sears Homart and Kenmore/ Lakewood (Including Penncrest, Kmart, Grants, and various other rebadges)/ Air King (Including Monarch Air and Tru value)/ Vernco/ Frigid (Including rebadged Vornado)/ Patton/

Finally, in my opinion, these are some of the best window fans ever made. 

 

 

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MAN, MINE MUST HAVE BEEN LEFT OVER STOCK. ITS JUST LIKE THE ONE RUSS HAS AND I HAVE THE SALES RECEIPT AND THE BOX , MY GRANDMOTHER BOUGHT IT AT SEARS IN FREDERICKSBURG VA, IN AUGUST  1968.

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Going by catalogs- If the knobs are IDENTICAL to Russ' fan and are WHITE, and it has TWO speeds and GE motor, then it was made pre '65.  If they are dark like the 9025 pictured, or on the bottom like this 9015 it is from 1965 on. 

 

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YUP THEY MUST HAVE HAD A OVERSTOCK IN THAT SEARS STORE FOR THEM TO BE AROUND IN 1968, I THINK I AM GOING TO GET IT OUT AND CLEAN IT UP.

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I'd like to see that fan!  This fan of Russ's is AWESOME! Looks Perfect!

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WELL IT IS NOT AS NICE AS THE ONE RUSS HAS, ITS THE SAME FAN BUT MY GRANDMOTHER RAN IT NIGHT AND DAY IN THE KITCHEN WINDOW , ENOUGH SAID. IT COULD USE A CLEANING BUT OTHER THAN THAT ITS OK. ITS IN ITS BOX IN THE ATTIC. I HAVE THE SALES SLIP IN MY DESK THATS HOW I KNOW WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT.

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YOU guys really know your stuff on these ventilators. :up: Like I mentioned before..I don't collect them but when I spotted this one, I wasn't going to pass on it, that is if I could help it. :D They built this one like a tank. Her paint ain't perfect in spots, but it is nothing to shake a stick at. :up:

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7300 CFM:shock: Thats insane!

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mike if you have ever had one, it isnt unrealistic. the slender models with the smaller blade had a slow "low" and good "high". The three speed models had a medium that was like high-speed in other window fans, and when you hit true high speed it cranked like crazy. i have had one of each, three wing three speed, four wing three speed came out around 74 and both really blew the doors off other fans. Even on the slowest speed you were surprised when you turned it on and the way it torqued up to speed very quickly and when you set it higher they were up to speed in seconds

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 What kind of horsepower is that motor and what became of Homart?

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RE HP rating:  The HP rating on the 3 speed fans being described was 1/6 HP.  They had a Westinghouse motor.  The 2 speed fan with GE had either a 1/12 or 1/15th HP motor. 

The 3 speed fans had huge blades.  Deep pitch and very wide.  Took some power to turn them.  I have attached a picture below of the rear of a Sears Model 8025 bladeset.  Note how deep the pitch is and width of blades.

RE Homart:  Both Homart and Kenmore were names owned and used exclusively by Sears.  Homart was a Sears brand name used on appliances up through the early- mid 1960s.  Most of their home appliances bore this name.  In the late 50s- early 60's Kenmore became used by Sears as a name and Homartw as gradually phased out.  By the 1970s, only the Kenmore name remained.

 

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I saw a lot of those fans in windows when I was a kid.Thanks for the info.:up:

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I just bought one of these fans, a Kenmore 9022, from 1963 I believe, from the 1963 Spring Catalog.   It is my first vintage fan.  Probably paid way to much for it, but if it does what I want it to do, it will pay for itself in a month or less...  

I needed a window fan to take advantage of the morning chill, so my A/C would not need to run during the day.  I looked at modern fans, but decided they all look like junk and I may as well buy something that will last and work better than the new stuff as well. 

When I first plugged it in, it seemed to run fine, smooth and quiet on low in exhaust.  I then moved it to high and it ran great, stirring up a hurricane in the room.  I was very impressed and happy..., for about 15 seconds, then it slowed down and reversed itself, blowing softly in the wrong direction.  I tried the other switch positions, and they all worked in the correct direction, but it no longer was blowing as hard as before.

I went ahead and ordered a run capacitor, figuring that may be the problem.  Any other things to look for would be great.

I'm also wondering where I might find some knobs for it.  The same style would be nice, but just getting something that will fit the switch posts would be great for now.  

 

 

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You got a good one there! Getting a knob like might be tough. You could try a local hardware store or Radio Shack.:D

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I have a Frigid fan with that Fasco motor. Mine did the same thing when the capacitor went bad. These old big and heavy window fans are harder to kill than most people think. My Vornado 18" window fan ran for 7 and a half hours cavitating air because someone closed the air exchange window. The motor got so hot, I couldn't even touch it for a second. I thought I cooked the motor.

After letting it cool down for a few hours, I power it up and it runs like nothing ever happened! And this is all after 7 and a half hours of straight non-stop abuse.

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I had a nice one with a box like that and the box had been stamped 1964. If you look on the box it might have been date stamped by the box maker.
I sold it to a forum member who has posted here so he can look for himself and find the date.

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Thanks everyone.

I put the new run capacitor in and it now spins the right way, but is not spinning very fast. Only in the intake mode on high does it seem to blow well, and I don't think it is blowing nearly as hard as it should, based on the ratings.

The capacitor I took out, and the new one, are 6 MFD. Does that sound right? The old one is 330V and the new one is 370V. Is that ok?

In exhaust mode, it spins slowly, and makes a kind of thrumming noise, like what I'm used to when a motor is spinning up from a stop. I let it run for a minute or so before turning it off, and the motor was fairly warm, though not too hot to touch.

The bearings seem to be fine, as it spins easily and coasts a long time. Any tips on what to look for?

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I am starting to wonder if it is wired up wrong or maybe the switch is bad? The motor should have not gotten that warm in just one minute. Does the switch click into place or does it feel loose? 6 MFD seems a bit large. I would have expected something a long the lines of 2.5-3 MFD.

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The switch feels good and tight, clicks into place well.

I realized that my DMM has a cap check setting on it and checked both caps. The old one is about 5.9 MFD and the new one about 6.1 MFD.

I wonder if someone just threw it in and was happy that it spun. I could grab a 3 MFD capacitor and see what that does.

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Wayne Bengston wrote: The switch feels good and tight, clicks into place well.

I realized that my DMM has a cap check setting on it and checked both caps. The old one is about 5.9 MFD and the new one about 6.1 MFD.

I wonder if someone just threw it in and was happy that it spun. I could grab a 3 MFD capacitor and see what that does.
Can you get some detailed pictures of the motor? I am curious as to what type of motor it has. If there is any stamping or written information on the motor itself, that would help too. Three speed or two speed?

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