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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 07:36 pm
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wow what a monster just bought this at a yard sale for ten dollars it has metal blades and the originle plug with the copper wires showing. it is reversible meaning it can go clockwise motor direction or counter clock wise this was a great find i do not no what year it is but if you guys can tell me that will be great butfirst i have a few questions to ask. how come when i turn the fan low or high it has a bzzz sound is it a faulty motor or switch. #2 when i turn it on low the blades dont turn but when it shut it off and put on low it starts a little slow than catches up with the speed in two minutes. i ran this fan for 35 minuets i cheked the motor if it was really hot it wasnt it was warm. i put oil in the bearings alined the bearens etc and cleaned the motor up.
#3 is it a ge fire ball motor heres the pics

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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 07:38 pm
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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 07:38 pm
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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 07:39 pm
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the fan has that same plug but i replaced it it is the same thing as my lamp plug in the back

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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 07:42 pm
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Non-original plug. Fasco motor, they made great motors.

Motor buzz is when the windings are loose and vibrate.

When you say the fan stops running on low, is that when you switch it from high to low? Your post is a bit confusing.

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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 08:33 pm
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sorry about that when i switch it on low fastly the fins dont turn the motor just hums i turn it back on it goes back originle speed which is low

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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2012 08:34 pm
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and what year is this

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 Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2012 04:53 am
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That's not even a GE motor. I believe it's a Westinghouse.

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nick i am a little confused by the detail here. this is a good fan. this is not a GE motor. The buzz when you turn it on means one of the windings is loose and vibrating. Does the blade spin freely by hand? If not, it needs oil. If the fan starts in either direction on high, then when you switch to low and it coasts to a stop, you could have a switch or motor problem. If you turn it off and then back on low and it starts by itself, you could have a bad switch. I have two of these right now, and one works great with a i believe a fasco motor. I just got another with a universal motor and it is bound up and buzzes too , SO i have work to do on mine.

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 Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2012 12:17 pm
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nick, next year you should try to make the allentown fan meet if you can. we had a good time saturday

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where is that located i live in thompson ct

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and what is the year of my dominion

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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2012 06:49 pm
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rob dumb question what causes the stator windings to get loose. and how can you fix it

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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2012 06:51 pm
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also te motor shaft inside the fan motor moves freely in and out but a little too much like almost 1/8 of an inch.

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1/8" of end to end play is not a lot at all.

Your fan is probably from the 60's

You would need to reseal the motor to stop the vibration. This involves cleaning the windings off WITHOUT damaging it and spraying it with insulating varnish.

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what type of insulatinig varnish do i use? and where can i buy it.
can loose stator windings cause permanent motor damage if run for long periods of time?

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Nick Porra wrote:
can loose stator windings cause permanent motor damage if run for long periods of time?

It is the primary mode of failure for all electric motors.

The noise is vibration... which in turn is abrasion... which in turn rubs the insulation on the windings... SO when it wears thin, you will more than likely get an internal short.

Internal shorts, by themselves, are a runaway condition that will make the motor run hotter and hotter until it finally blows.

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it is'nt a very large bzzz. what it does is when i turn the fan on low it just buzzes when the blades start to spin. and goes away. all i hear when the fan is on low when the blades are spining i hear a tiny bzz while the motor is running. is that normal or do i need insulating varnish. i ran the fan for 50 minutes and the motor was just warm

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do i use compressed air on te windings to clean them or do i wipe it with a cloth

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rob if i use the insulating varnish on my boxfan motor will it make my boxfan start up faster and stop the buzzing

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anyone please???

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2012 07:40 pm
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also i have parts of the fan motor i took out of it and come to find out it had the originle paper tape that was disenergrated here are the pics of the windings and rotor

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ok after i restored my fan to original condition besides the motor with the sprayon varnish. still works. i bought some sprayon varnish for the windings on my fan, and one guy told me to use super glue or hot glue to help i used super glue on the windings i still get buzzing. the i sprayed the varnish over the windings and i have a little buzzing any help would be appreciated thanks. and could it use a motor rewinding job?

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Nick Porra wrote: ok after i restored my fan to original condition besides the motor with the sprayon varnish. still works. i bought some sprayon varnish for the windings on my fan, and one guy told me to use super glue or hot glue to help i used super glue on the windings i still get buzzing. the i sprayed the varnish over the windings and i have a little buzzing any help would be appreciated thanks. and could it use a motor rewinding job?I thought you traded this fan for a model 35 Fresh'nd-Aire.

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hi rob i had a similar one to this that i gave that guy for the freshy model 35. it was in the mid 70s and was a aqua blue nonreversible.

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re winding is expensive and time consuming. to properly insulate the windings again, they'd have to be individually removed and dunked, (each little wire in the individual coil was covered) then put back together. to fix the end play you could get a 1/8" felt or plastic washer and put it between the bearing and rotor.

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