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 Posted: Mon Jul 1st, 2013 08:59 pm
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Since this was an early Mobilaire (1948 - 1953?) for $25.00 at a warehouse sale and running very nicely, it made its way home with me.:D

I had one previously and sold it, not knowing my wife had taken to it, so this one was to be hers. I was happy with the finished fan, but the extra pain from taking the finned shroud down to bare metal was grueling and so time consuming. (No blaster!:cry:) Learned a little from removing the legs completely from the top section , as there was no center piece that keeps the wheels apart. (Fabricated out of 3/4" thick walled PVC pipe.) I do see why most choose to avoid this step. Liked the wheels cleaned down to rubber too, black seemed to be a better fit overall.

The switch was obviously bad, but used a toggle with a Hi and Lo designation little plate, with center off position. New headwire and replacement capacitor were also needed. I do love the fan, its look and function overall (so quiet), but would not be in a hurry to do another soon... I hope!:P Took a ton of photos, measurements, notes, etc. for future reference.

Question: I have seen the early ones with round tubes under the motor and square boxes as well. Can they help with year identification at all? Just curious, as they were no badges to be had on this one.

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Missing wheel spacer tube.

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LOVE any steeply pitched blades.:D

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Nice to work on and with out of the fan.

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Blades done.

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Rear lower view.

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Front angled view motor/blades.

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Front view, no grill yet.

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Lower legs, new spacer pipe color matched to blades.

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The dreaded 5 ringed shroud...:P

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Full front done.

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Front -Side view.

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Front -Side view.

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All done, in place whirring away quietly. Funny, people seem to take notice of this one. Must be the oh so different and unique industrial look. My wife LOVES it!:D After a while when many fans accumulate, I guess it makes sense to rotate them in and out of service for "some" justification of the growing numbers!:P The larger ones sure necessitate additional storage thoughts though...:D

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I like the color scheme :up:

I painted one silver exterior with black blades and one black exterior with silver blades. Yours came out very well indeed. The colors are nuetral enough to match most any interior and yet they still have personality. Thats not easy to do.

I have a trunnion mounted version thats the ugliest shade of grayish slate I've ever seen. I want to make the exterior a turquoise blue and chrome the grills. That might be something I get started on later this year.

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Charles Tedrick wrote: I like the color scheme :up:

I painted one silver exterior with black blades and one black exterior with silver blades. Yours came out very well indeed. The colors are nuetral enough to match most any interior and yet they still have personality. Thats not easy to do.

I have a trunnion mounted version thats the ugliest shade of grayish slate I've ever seen. I want to make the exterior a turquoise blue and chrome the grills. That might be something I get started on later this year.

Thanks Charles!
Sure appreciate the comments, I know you have seen and owned plenty. Your trunnion mount sounds like a great project. I'd love to see that one when you get to it. So many fan projects, so little time...:P You come across so many cool candidates, I don't know how you find time to work on them?

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Stephen Muza wrote: Charles Tedrick wrote: I like the color scheme :up:

I painted one silver exterior with black blades and one black exterior with silver blades. Yours came out very well indeed. The colors are nuetral enough to match most any interior and yet they still have personality. Thats not easy to do.

I have a trunnion mounted version thats the ugliest shade of grayish slate I've ever seen. I want to make the exterior a turquoise blue and chrome the grills. That might be something I get started on later this year.

You come across so many cool candidates, I don't know how you find time to work on them?

I dont have a job lol :violin:

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Nice colors!  I had the model after that one I bought in central Wisconsin.  It was in a junk shop and it literally looked like someone took it out of the box and displayed it there.  I took it home and put it in the garage.  A couple of years ago I sold over a 100 fans to a dealer.  He took that one in with the bunch.  I never ran it once. :D

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Russ Huber wrote: Nice colors!  I had the model after that one I bought in central Wisconsin.  It was in a junk shop and it literally looked like someone took it out of the box and displayed it there.  I took it home and put it in the garage.  A couple of years ago I sold over a 100 fans to a dealer.  He took that one in with the bunch.  I never ran it once. :DThanks Russ!

While color shopping, the color Rust-Oleum "Champagne Mist" hit me instantly and I "saw" the fan finished in it.:D The blades and wheel spacer was hammered Dark Bronze. As I mentioned, I HATED working on the 5 ringed shroud, but they do look so cool!

I had seen and used the patents you posted before. (Thanks again!) The last patent post showing the tubes explained their version well on the height limiter (To avoid pulling it out of the bottom tubes). They have a cloth covered copper wire (cloth to minimize copper hitting the walls of the tube) as described in the patent. Taking it apart was easy, but required a little thought to get the ends of both wires back through the screw posts that secured each end.

WoW! 100 Fans! That must have been a crazy sale that sure made the dealers day! Its always fun reading through the patents as you work on a fan. Inventive problem solving from decades ago...

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Good job Stephen,and they are a job aren't they? I caved on mine and used the Hammered Blue for a little help with that sanding., but it turned out good. I love that Rustoleum Champagne Mist, and just finished a 77646 in it. I like the fact that it's not a hard, bright gold, but kind of a soft look.

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Lamar Bass wrote: Good job Stephen,and they are a job aren't they? I caved on mine and used the Hammered Blue for a little help with that sanding., but it turned out good. I love that Rustoleum Champagne Mist, and just finished a 77646 in it. I like the fact that it's not a hard, bright gold, but kind of a soft look.Thanks Much Lamar!

I definitely "feel" you have "been there" on a Mobilaire.:P  Man, the numerous tiny places that you try to get to can drive you crazy. I saw a post where one guy pulled the rear grill off, but that would have required a new gasket of some type to be found and used. By that point I was getting toasted overall and did not even consider that as an option!

Glad to hear you liked and used the same color. I LOVE that Emerson series, tremendous running, highly efficient fans. (I have a few 77646 and 77648's) If you have a photo of your Emerson, I'd really love to see it. I'll bet it does look great. I like that it is "different" too. Cool paint color for that fan... a "Champagne Emmy"!:thumbup

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i have one of these in the late 40s beige, another in early 50's gray and two of the 1956-7 hex motor 3 wing versions. One i re-did completely with westinghouse blue i had mixed on the computer at sherwin williams and used  PreVal sprayer. messy but it came out looking like new. Good lcuk with it. Your Constellation is on its way!.

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Tom Zapf wrote: i have one of these in the late 40s beige, another in early 50's gray and two of the 1956-7 hex motor 3 wing versions. One i re-did completely with westinghouse blue i had mixed on the computer at sherwin williams and used  PreVal sprayer. messy but it came out looking like new. Good lcuk with it. Your Constellation is on its way!.
So you endured a few too?:P They sure deserve the attention though and are great fans! The Westinghouse Blue sure sounds interesting. The style is so cool, there are many color combinations to choose from, each different yet looking great.

Thanks for the update on the Chelsea, the extra attention and effort are truly appreciated. I do really like variety in fans and this was one I did not have. Their Spin It fans are SO NICE! My mind was instantly set at ease about the shipping, once I realized who you were, having seen you many times on the forum. Many Thanks again!:D

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I like the colors! Nice paint work too. Did that model originally have a badge?

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Great Job! Nice Color Scheme!:up:

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Luke Skelnik wrote: I like the colors! Nice paint work too. Did that model originally have a badge?
Thanks Luke! The colors did seem to go together well. I have done several big fans and they do make me appreciate the little ones at times.:P

The early model years should have had at least (1) rear badge, but some of the first ones from around 1948 evidently did not have a front badge. (Shown that way in a few ads). It was a major bummer this one had lost the one or both at some point in time. I think whoever painted it probably did not care and left it off or lost it? From what I have pieced together on the forum, etc., was they came out around 1948 with the round motor and changed over to the hexagonal one in 1954. That seems to be the time period for this one.

I had wondered and asked if the style of the "box" or "cylinder" directly below the motor holding the capacitor and connections helped at all with the dating, but have not heard anything yet.

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Michael Mirin wrote: Great Job! Nice Color Scheme!:up:
Thanks Michael!

Appreciate any and all compliments coming from fan collectors. After all, those are the people who see and look at fans all the time.:D I really enjoy saving them and restoring them to functional use. Some younger people who see them and have only known the Chinese junk plastic fans are really impressed. The older folks, smile and say, "They don't make them like that anymore!" as they remember having or seeing them in their youth.

I'd like to see a TV show that took an older and newer fan apart and analyzed the engineering, tolerances, design, parts, build quality, efficiency and of course, the performance. This would show a younger generation a product from a time when the US led the world in manufacturing and companies actually built things to last. Amazing how we evolved into a "Throw it away" society and is standard accepted practice now, sad.

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let me know whe it gets there, i can then relax...... the earliest mobilaires did not have a front badge according tot he ads i have in the scrapbook of fans. they later 4 wing did have a round badge, then the later ones also had round, winged and plain flat metal strips into the 70s.. (the last version was avocado and white with black blade)

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Jason Puniak wrote: nice one steveThanks Jason!

Any new fans still coming in around town? Have a good 4th, stay cool.:D

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Stephen, I noticed a rustbucket Mobilaire on the July 1 list for Tampa Bay Craigslist, for  25.00, not working. Looks like it has at least a front badge, maybe a rear too. Might be a chance to get a badge if  he would keep the fan. I wouldn't mind having the hexagonal motor if  I thought there was a prayer for it.

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Lamar Bass wrote: Stephen, I noticed a rustbucket Mobilaire on the July 1 list for Tampa Bay Craigslist, for  25.00, not working. Looks like it has at least a front badge, maybe a rear too. Might be a chance to get a badge if  he would keep the fan. I wouldn't mind having the hexagonal motor if  I thought there was a prayer for it.Thanks for the thoughts on my missing badge subject Lamar.

Since I have seen a couple different badges from fans, ads, etc., I am not sure of which one to look out for, especially since I can't narrow down the year any closer. I do like the one displayed here a little more than the round ones, but I will keep my eyes open. Thanks again.

I live right outside Pittsburgh, PA and it seems ALL of the fans I come to like are ALWAYS further away than I would like. I have a 1939 16" GE Vortalex Pedestal that was 40 minutes away that was a gem.

Thanks again, Happy 4th of July and Happy Hunting!:D

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Penn is fan Mecca!:cool:

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