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 Posted: Sat Oct 21st, 2017 10:59 pm
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Richard Littlepage
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What is it?

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Looks like an attic fan of some sort, but instead of being belt-driven like most attic fans are this one has the blade attached directly to the motor which is rather unusual.

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Richard Littlepage wrote: What is it?




I don't know exactly what it was originally used for but it is a really nice find. The motor is hard to see behind there but it looks very old and cool. Have you run it?

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 04:32 am
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This is a small pic of the Motor 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 04:34 am
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Oh wow... that's really interesting.

I don't think it's homemade because the frame and blade are aluminum castings. That would be more than most would be able to do at home.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 04:36 am
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Well it appears to be a brushed motor. Possibly a DC only or a Universal Motor perhaps?

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Levi Mevis wrote: Well it appears to be a brushed motor. Possibly a DC only or a Universal Motor perhaps?


Hard to tell!  Maybe he can clear off and make legible the other, larger data plate on the motor....

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 04:40 am
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As far as I know the American Blower Company is still around to this day...

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Yes I will atempt to do that I just rushed it.  :?

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Richard Littlepage wrote: Yes I will atempt to do that I just rushed it.  :?
LOL!  Not rushed.... just enthusiastic about sharing it!  Sort of like my picture of a fan in the trunk of the car before I even get home! :)

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It's a Westinghouse Type CA  motor which is an A.C. only motor apparently according to the tag which is odd because it clearly has brush holders which would indicate a universal motor of some sort.

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Levi Mevis wrote: It's a Westinghouse Type CA  motor which is an A.C. only motor apparently according to the tag which is odd because it clearly has brush holders which would indicate a universal motor of some sort.


Wonder if it's a repulsion motor?

Or; if the caps that are on the back might not actually be brush holders and maybe they are just binding posts for connecting the wires?


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That's what I'm wondering, it might be  a repulsion-induction motor.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 08:42 pm
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Sorry about the crappy pictures here's some better ones

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So do you believe the blade is also Westinghouse?

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No not yet. Thanks 

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True I was 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2017 09:54 pm
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Looks like the parts that I thought were brush holders were indeed nothing more than binding posts for the wiring for the motor. So it is nothing more than a simple A.C. Only Induction Motor. I'm guessing the blades and the frame are American Blower Company Made and the Motor was sourced by them from Westinghouse because they didn't make their own motors for their fans which was common for attic fan manufacturers back then. I think the answer to your question as to who made your fan is right on the small tag on your Motor, it was made by the American Blower Company of Detroit, Michigan, and I think it's nothing more than a simple Attic Gable Fan from probably the 1930s judging by the way the motor is made and by the style of the blades.

I hope this helps.

Levi

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Cool thanks for the information gentleman it is helpful.  :clap:

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After the information you guys provided I found this. Thanks 

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That's great you found the manual for the motor on that fan!

Have you got it running yet?

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I haven't even tested it yet. I didn't want to take it inside because the box smells like mouse piss. I'll probably drag a extension cord outside today when I get home. I'll keep you up to date.

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Cool Fan! I have the smaller version of that Westinghouse motor. It is 1/8hp and it runs at 3450rpm's. I have had it for several years now. I like it because of the odd rpm's.








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I just hooked it up it probably hasn't been hooked up in at least 55 years place I got it from closed in the 60s. It home for a a second and I spun the blade and it took off I probably said just need some good cleaning

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Richard Littlepage wrote: I just hooked it up it probably hasn't been hooked up in at least 55 years place I got it from closed in the 60s. It home for a a second and I spun the blade and it took off I probably said just need some good cleaning
Awesome!  That is great.  Just be sure the bearings get serviced ASAP so that they don't burn out from the dried up grease and oil that's certainly in there. Can't wait to hear and see a video!


Crazy that a place would close in the 60's and remain undisturbed that long. Has to be an interesting story to be told.




Don Tener wrote:Cool Fan! I have the smaller version of that Westinghouse motor. It is 1/8hp and it runs at 3450rpm's. I have had it for several years now. I like it because of the odd rpm's.


That's cool, must be a 2-pole stator. That would run at a synchronous speed of 3600 RPM at our North American 60 Hz frequency. With a little room for slip, 3450 is very reasonable. Those high speed motors are useful where you have a cyclical load like an air compressor. The compressor piston only takes torque while it's on the up-stroke compressing air. The motor's rotor spinning at high speed like a flywheel helps to store energy on the other parts of the stroke, then gives momentum to help it compress the air at the top of the stroke. A slower motor won't have as much flywheel momentum.


Another use is for a direct-drive centrifugal pump where you need high RPMs to make head pressure.

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Yeah The Story Goes it was an old trailer park in the guy shut it down and I guess over the years when people moved out or needed stuff serviced people would trade their belongings for his services I ended up getting three fans there a Westinghouse pedestal fan 10 inch a fresh and Air seat fan still in a box and a FASCO seat fam

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Richard Littlepage wrote: Yeah The Story Goes it was an old trailer park in the guy shut it down and I guess over the years when people moved out or needed stuff serviced people would trade their belongings for his services I ended up getting three fans there a Westinghouse pedestal fan 10 inch a fresh and Air seat fan still in a box and a FASCO seat fam
Yep that is interesting!  Any other machinery there for sale?

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All gone.  :X 

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I should of stayed longer to go thru more stuff but it was a very long day

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