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 Posted: Sat May 26th, 2018 08:54 pm
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Dan Foley
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I wasn't really happy with the old frame I had put together for this fan, so I decided to make a new cabinet.  I also gave the fan some Hunter Green semigloss paint, since the original paint was kind of worn out.  If anyone's interested I can also post some pictures during the building process.












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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 12:15 am
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Duane Burright
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Very nice! Are you running it with a speed control?

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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 02:49 am
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Dan Foley wrote: I wasn't really happy with the old frame I had put together for this fan, so I decided to make a new cabinet.  I also gave the fan some Hunter Green semigloss paint, since the original paint was kind of worn out.  If anyone's interested I can also post some pictures during the building process.


Hey Dan - that looks great!  I especially like the diagonal side support. Really gives it an old-school barn / rural look.

Also the wiring job is neat and tidy with the terminal strip there on the inside of the box.  What sort of speed controller is that?

Thanks for sharing this here!

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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 03:11 am
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Duane and Dave - thanks for the kind words! I'm actually just running with it a regular old 3PDT switch. Would something like a triac be suitable as a speed controller for that motor? If possible I would much rather have a variable controller.

David - with the wiring and overall design I actually tried to draw some inspiration from the cabinet you made for your giant bucket-blade ILG. I wanted to be able to take everything apart in sections if necessary, so that terminal strip really came in handy in that regard.


Now I'd just like to find a 16" bucket-blade ILG. That way I'll have a 12 and 16 version of both the teardrop blade and bucket-blade fans.  Next up I want to make box fan frames for my 12" ILGs.

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Dan Foley wrote: Duane and Dave - thanks for the kind words! I'm actually just running with it a regular old 3PDT switch. Would something like a triac be suitable as a speed controller for that motor? If possible I would much rather have a variable controller.



David - with the wiring and overall design I actually tried to draw some inspiration from the cabinet you made for your giant bucket-blade ILG. I wanted to be able to take everything apart in sections if necessary, so that terminal strip really came in handy in that regard.





Now I'd just like to find a 16" bucket-blade ILG. That way I'll have a 12 and 16 version of both the teardrop blade and bucket-blade fans.  Next up I want to make box fan frames for my 12" ILGs.

Dan, I believe the triac control would be effective on the 163 motor, but more than likely you would still need the switch. More than likely the triac could be used to slow down the Low speed more, but if the triac was used with the motor in High speed mode, you might have a heating issue.

The bucket blade Ilgs definitely have 'that vintage look' for sure! I am so thankful to have a 48W for my main shop fan. It is a head-turner when stopped, and a real crowd pleaser when running.


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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 04:28 am
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David - thanks for the information. Honestly the low speed is already quite tame, I believe it's around 855 RPM. Right now the ball bearings actually produce more noise than the blade itself on low. So I'll probably just leave it as-is!

Here are a few more pictures from along the way:








I'm glad I used that sander to round the edges on the boards.  Overall it's not perfect, but I think it fits the fan and it certainly makes it much easier to use.  The last thing I want to do is add some handles on the sides of the cabinet for easier carrying.  

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Dan Foley wrote: David - thanks for the information. Honestly the low speed is already quite tame, I believe it's around 855 RPM. Right now the ball bearings actually produce more noise than the blade itself on low. So I'll probably just leave it as-is!

Here are a few more pictures from along the way:


I'm glad I used that sander to round the edges on the boards.  Overall it's not perfect, but I think it fits the fan and it certainly makes it much easier to use.  The last thing I want to do is add some handles on the sides of the cabinet for easier carrying.  

That's good that Low is suitable for your tastes!  I remember working on a 163 for a friend and it was also quite tame on Low. Seemed that making slight adjustments to the capacitor value could make a large difference in the Low speed, without making High draw too much current.

Definitely nice to have sanded down corners. It is no good to get all sorts of wood splinters in your hands every time you move the fan! Looks better too. :P


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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 06:27 pm
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Dan Foley wrote: Honestly the low speed is already quite tame, I believe it's around 855 RPM. Right now the ball bearings actually produce more noise than the blade itself on low. So I'll probably just leave it as-is!

Dan, is that a two speed motor? I know some of those used a converter box with the capacitor to run the fan.

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 06:29 pm
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Duane Burright wrote: Dan Foley wrote: Honestly the low speed is already quite tame, I believe it's around 855 RPM. Right now the ball bearings actually produce more noise than the blade itself on low. So I'll probably just leave it as-is!



Dan, is that a two speed motor? I know some of those used a converter box with the capacitor to run the fan.


Something like this? http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=46946

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 08:15 pm
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David Allen wrote: Something like this? http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=46946

OK, that's where I saw it. I know Andrew has demonstrated a couple with the stock converters as well.

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 08:24 pm
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Duane Burright wrote: David Allen wrote: Something like this? http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=46946



OK, that's where I saw it. I know Andrew has demonstrated a couple with the stock converters as well.


Yep!  That is his fan in the video. Those AutoCAD wiring diagrams were made from the original converter design.

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 09:46 pm
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Duane Burright wrote:
Dan, is that a two speed motor? I know some of those used a converter box with the capacitor to run the fan.

Yeah, as David mentioned it's a regular two speed with a cap.  It's really not that loud for the amount of air it moves, more of a white noise even on high.  But I was mostly curious to see if some kind of infinite speed control would be possible with a dual speed motor.  
I believe Andrew has an ILG with variable speed (from the factory), but it's most likely a single speed motor.

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I know an ILG like this one wouldn't have the lettering colored in, but I decided to try it out since I had a yellow paint marker available:

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Dan Foley wrote: I know an ILG like this one wouldn't have the lettering colored in, but I decided to try it out since I had a yellow paint marker available:



Boy that looks good!

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that looks awesome great job.

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Sure does look good. David, you may have some competition!

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Richard Daugird wrote: Sure does look good. David, you may have some competition!
Yes, definitely!  This is what I want to see! Love to see other people's ideas of how to do similar builds to mine.

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