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 Posted: Fri Dec 13th, 2019 05:08 pm
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Anthony Cressey
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I have a beautiful Kisco Circulair Hassock 7000-P20 fan  (unsure of the year) that was inherited from my wife's grandmother when she passed away, that was in need of a bit of wiring repair. It worked, but I didn't feel comfortable plugging it in with the state the wiring was in so I decided to take it apart and rewire / solder in new wire etc.
All went well or so I thought, but when I plug it in it's in constant "on", with no speed variance. I must have got my wires crossed  when hooking it back up (pun intended, and bet you never heard that one on here before haha).
So, I'm really hoping someone has a wiring diagram? Specifically what wires connect to what in the little wire box (sorry I don't know what else to call it) where the 3 speed switch is at.

The fan blades also didn't turn very freely, so I took apart the Redmond motor, but can't find anything that would cause resistance. Any thoughts on that too?

Any help would be much appreciated! The wife may kill me if I don't get her grand moms fan back together, so help me to make this not my last ever post haha! I want to live! :D

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 Posted: Fri Dec 27th, 2019 07:38 pm
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anyone?

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 Posted: Sat Dec 28th, 2019 11:35 am
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First of all, good, well lit pictures showing your specific question help us to understand what might be wrong.  

I’d start from the beginning.  Take the motor apart and clean the bearings and rotor shaft with a solvent like mineral spirits.  Then oil the shaft with an appropriate oil like zoom spout or 3 in one in the white/blue can.  Just oiling won’t work because you’re just rejuvenating the old gummy oil.  


Then check that the blade spins freely by hand.  These motors have very little torque and won’t start if there is drag.  If it doesn’t, than you must troubleshoot that first.  


Then troubleshoot the electrical.  Because most of these are shaded pole motors, you can test them simply by connecting a test cord (extension cord with receptacle end removed) directly to the 2 motor leads to test it.  If it runs well, then the motor is good to go.  You now know that’s not the problem.  


As far as the connections. There will be no wiring diagram per se.  but the power cord neutral will connect directly to one of the motor leads.  The hot from the power cord ( small plug prong/ no ridges on the cord conductor)  goes into one end of the speed control/switch.  The other wire from the switch goes to the remaining motor lead.  


If it never worked on all speeds, it’s possible that the switch or speed coil are bad.  


You might want to mention where you’re located, as there might be a member local to you willing to help troubleshoot it.  


If you’re in eastern PA area, I’d be glad to help. I hope that helps you to figure it out. 



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 Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2019 09:23 pm
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Thank you very much Lane! You are a huge help! Sorry I should have posted some photos when I asked the question, next time.. I knew I didn't hook it up right, and you pointed me in the right direction. I got it running, and wired up properly. I also was able to fix the resistance in the motor too. I cleaned off the old oil, re oiled with high quality synthetic motor oil I run in my car. It should be good for a very long time now.
I'm in the metro Detroit area, grandma (and the fan) was in Kalamazoo.
Here's some shots of it done.







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 Posted: Mon Dec 30th, 2019 09:24 pm
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uhh, sorry for the sideways shots. not sure what's up with that.

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 Posted: Tue Dec 31st, 2019 12:56 am
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Hi Anthony, 
2 things, first of all the sideways thing is a quirk with the forum. Pics shot in landscape mode work fine, but with portrait, just edit them ever so slightly before you post them.  Then they’ll appear correctly. I usually crop them a tiny bit.  


Secondly, automotive oils, even synthetic aren’t good to use in fans due to the detergents and additives.  They will possibly cause problems long term.  The 2 oils I suggested are cheap and readily available.  My advice would be to use them going forward. 

I’m happy that you got it going. Grandma would be proud!  

Just an observation, every one of the Kisco fans I’ve seen like that has had a metal top with a cone shaped deflector on the underside. I’ve not seen one with a screen on top.  Seems that the top was damaged in some way or they wanted air to blow out the top and fabricated that.  Makes it a bit non original, but it’s probably a relative that made the modification, so that’s cool. 

Last edited on Tue Dec 31st, 2019 01:00 am by Lane Shirey

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