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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:05 pm
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Lakewood 1st generation box fan with a Westinghouse motor insted of those crappy GE motors.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:06 pm
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Another Superlectric box fan that was found in a dumpster.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:08 pm
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Two smaller box fans (Left) Vornado box fan (Right) Galaxy box fan

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:10 pm
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Lakewood model #200 marketed under Windmere and was the last Lakewood box fan to be made with quality until those stupid new ones with the support ring on the blades hit the market.

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I really like your vornado box fan I've never seen one with a grill styled that way before.

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Yes, that is the last decent five blade Lakewood made.  They have discontinued all window fans and the only box fan they make is the cheap WalMart type Model 101.

They do make a couple of decent high velocity circulators.  I have heard they are currently closing their Chicago plant and manufacturing everything in China from now on.  What a shame. 

Intersting that Lasko continues, and still makes fans in USA.  I would bet that during the 1970s and 1980s Lakewood sold more box fans, and they were of a higher quality.  Somewhere, somehow, Lakewood went off track as far as box fan production.  I think the shifted all of their manufatcuring to cater mainly to Wal-mart.

I have not seen a 5 blade Superelectric in a long, long time!

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Austin,

Does your XC20 have a GE motor?   I think they mainly came with the GE, but have seen Lakewoods with motors made in house, as well as with Westinghouse and Fasco motors.

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Don Whipple wrote: Austin,

Does your XC20 have a GE motor?   I think they mainly came with the GE, but have seen Lakewoods with motors made in house, as well as with Westinghouse and Fasco motors.

My XC-20 has a GE motor.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 08:34 pm
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William Schaub wrote: I really like your vornado box fan I've never seen one with a grill styled that way before.


Thanks:D

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 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 10:23 pm
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Don Whipple wrote: Michael,

Thanks for the compliments on the fans.  Your fans are pretty sweet as well. 

The blade on your window fan is interesting, as it's different than the one on my Country Aire.  I think that blade design must pre date the one I have.  What motor is on that one?

I have an older one, with a huge blade design that I'll get on here later.


Hi Don,

I'll get back to you on that motor.I got take a look at it.

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Heres one of the early box fans.Curtis Mathes.Heres where the

term box fan comes from.Its a mahagony cabinet.

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Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.

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That Vornado is nice, it isn't OA Sutton though.
It was manufactured under the name Vornado for Two Guys dept stores sometime in the 60s after OA Sutton closed

I've got a Two Guys vornado as well

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 Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:16 am
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Bill Kreiner wrote: Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.

Edison N.J, Bill did you ever go to a thrift store called "Value Village" up in Hawthorne?

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Michael,

Here is my "older" Country Aire Lakewood W20-3 3 sp. exhaust/window fan.  I think it has the same bladeset as yours.  Bigger and deeper pitch than the other Lakewood blades.

Lakewood started manufacturing fans in 1946.  I'm thinking this one I have is an early model.  I think yours came after, then the models with the more modern (4 square rivet) blade came in the late 1950s. 

What is the motor on yours?  This one has a GE that is not lubricatable.  No ports and the motor does not come apart.  You can drip oil on the front of the axle and it gets to the front bearing, but there is no way to get oil to the back.  Still, the fan runs well.  No noise except a bit of a rattle on low.

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Here is the back of the Country Aire W20-3. 

The guy I bought my Penncrest from gave this one to me, only had to pay shipping.  Still, it was not cheap, as it weights about 35 lbs. 

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I think that 12" Vornado may have been manufactured by Frigid.  The blades look like a Frigid.  Frigid made 20" 3,4, and even 5 blade metal box fans that had that same grill design.

It's a nice fan. 

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Hey Don,

Heres the pic of my country aire motor.It was a little tricky

trying to shoot the motor.Hopes this helps.

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another pic of it.

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Don Whipple wrote: I think that 12" Vornado may have been manufactured by Frigid.  The blades look like a Frigid.  Frigid made 20" 3,4, and even 5 blade metal box fans that had that same grill design.

It's a nice fan. 

It was manufactured by Frigid, they were the only ones who used that grill design. I think one of these went off on Ebay with its original box not to long ago but it was marketed under the name Ambassador.

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Austin B Ko wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.

Edison N.J, Bill did you ever go to a thrift store called "Value Village" up in Hawthorne?

Value Village? I believe that's the store that just took the place of the old Rag Shop. I went in there about a month ago, but they were still setting up. I may check it out tomorrow, as I'm on holiday this week.

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.


Well Bill I dont know if they would fit in a window.I believe these were made more as

a piece of furniture.The style I have came with legs so it stood upright.

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Austin B Ko wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.

Edison N.J, Bill did you ever go to a thrift store called "Value Village" up in Hawthorne?

Value Village? I believe that's the store that just took the place of the old Rag Shop. I went in there about a month ago, but they were still setting up. I may check it out tomorrow, as I'm on holiday this week.

Its not that great most of there stuff is broken and when I went there, there were no fans, if I were you, I'd ride to Elezabeth and got to the thrift store there, its called Unique but they are getting expensive just like the ones near me, but I have found fans there before. I havent went in a long time.

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Austin B Ko wrote: Don Whipple wrote: I think that 12" Vornado may have been manufactured by Frigid.  The blades look like a Frigid.  Frigid made 20" 3,4, and even 5 blade metal box fans that had that same grill design.

It's a nice fan. 

It was manufactured by Frigid, they were the only ones who used that grill design. I think one of these went off on Ebay with its original box not to long ago but it was marketed under the name Ambassador.
Here is the frigid one.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 12:46 am
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Don Whipple wrote: Michael,

Here is my "older" Country Aire Lakewood W20-3 3 sp. exhaust/window fan.  I think it has the same bladeset as yours.  Bigger and deeper pitch than the other Lakewood blades.

Lakewood started manufacturing fans in 1946.  I'm thinking this one I have is an early model.  I think yours came after, then the models with the more modern (4 square rivet) blade came in the late 1950s. 

What is the motor on yours?  This one has a GE that is not lubricatable.  No ports and the motor does not come apart.  You can drip oil on the front of the axle and it gets to the front bearing, but there is no way to get oil to the back.  Still, the fan runs well.  No noise except a bit of a rattle on low.

 Id agree with you.Seems like the early window fans had the rounder shape and later evolved to a squared form

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Michael,

 

You have a Redmond motor.  It's somewhat like this one, which is on my "newer" Country Aire.  I think these motors are better than the GE's that preceeded and followed them on Lakewood fans.  You are lucky to have one.  Does your fan run well?

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Heres a late 60s-early 70s Frigid box fan.Frigid came out with the molded plastic

grill at this time.

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What about Air King!!!!!!!Here's one from the 60s.

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:up:Or how about the fab. 50s****

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since you bring it up i have a king comeing my way thanks to Allen Colson
im tradeing my ge boxer for it it has its orginal box too:clap: here pictures i saved from when it was on ebay

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Austin B Ko wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Austin B Ko wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Michael: Always wondered about those Mathes Coolers. I've toyed with the idea of getting one. Can you stand them in on windowsills, or are they too thick?

Austin: I have a Galaxy like yours, and have been trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to talk my neighbor into selling me his Vornado. I checked out the Vornado recently on Ebay, but decided to go only for the Toastmaster, which I won. Can't wait to get it! Where in N.J. are you? I'm in Hawthorne.

Edison N.J, Bill did you ever go to a thrift store called "Value Village" up in Hawthorne?

Value Village? I believe that's the store that just took the place of the old Rag Shop. I went in there about a month ago, but they were still setting up. I may check it out tomorrow, as I'm on holiday this week.

Its not that great most of there stuff is broken and when I went there, there were no fans, if I were you, I'd ride to Elezabeth and got to the thrift store there, its called Unique but they are getting expensive just like the ones near me, but I have found fans there before. I havent went in a long time.

That's what my mom said, and she went there with her sister last week. There is one in Paterson, not far over the Hawthorne-Paterson line. The store is pretty good, but the area is crappy. I found one in Garfield that had tons of fans, but they were pricey.

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and the best part the box comes with it and if it still looks like the ebay listing the box will be nice

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Michael Mirin wrote: Austin B Ko wrote: Don Whipple wrote: I think that 12" Vornado may have been manufactured by Frigid.  The blades look like a Frigid.  Frigid made 20" 3,4, and even 5 blade metal box fans that had that same grill design.

It's a nice fan. 

It was manufactured by Frigid, they were the only ones who used that grill design. I think one of these went off on Ebay with its original box not to long ago but it was marketed under the name Ambassador.
Here is the frigid one.

Does this Frigid fan (12-14", I assume?) have a motor-mount bar in the back? I can't see clearly to the back, because the blades are in the way. The Toastmaster I just won on Ebay seems to have the motor mounted directly to the rear grille, which I am not crazy about, since it makes dismantling for cleaning that much more difficult.

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:up:Very,Very nice.When are we gonna get to page 3.:P

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Michael Mirin wrote: :up:Very,Very nice.When are we gonna get to page 3.:P
didnt know there were that many box fan lovers here

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Michael Mirin wrote: :up:Or how about the fab. 50s****
OK, guys, question: When was the first non-Mathes box fan manufactured? I assume the late 1940s? (The Mathes, I assume, debuted in the 1940s as well?) A neighbor has a tank-like three-bladed 20" (or so) G.E. that she claims dates to 1948. It has a horizontal motor-mount bar in the back and is electrically reversible. My guess would have been mid-1950s, but she swears it is a 1940s fan.

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I like those Air Kings.  They sold those at True Value Hardaware when I was a kid.  They always had the two speed model like yours, Michael and then a deluxe 3 sp rev that had the bladeset like the fan Miles is getting.  I'd try and get my folks to buy one- always heard "What do we need another fan for"?  Well, 'cause I like 'em!

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I had no idea the interest was so strong for box fans either.  I put mine on here just as kind of a "hello" last night, as I was bored and wanted something to do.  You guys all seemed pretty cool, but I wondered if the "table fan police" would come along this morning, delete me and tell me to go my merry way...So, far so good!

Looking at these fans throughout the day really made my work day kind of exciting!

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:PWe need a box fan historian,any one out there?

How about a couple of Air King window fans!I grew up with this

style one.I even have a picture of it at my sisters birthday

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Don Whipple wrote: I had no idea the interest was so strong for box fans either.  I put mine on here just as kind of a "hello" last night, as I was bored and wanted something to do.  You guys all seemed pretty cool, but I wondered if the "table fan police" would come along this morning, delete me and tell me to go my merry way...So, far so good!

Looking at these fans throughout the day really made my work day kind of exciting!

well looks like its going to keep going i bet you even the bigest desk fan person has at least on old box fan i may lose that bet but im not betting anything

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