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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 04:19 pm
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Here is the Hunter.  I found it in a dumpster while visiting relatives in Illinois.  No, I don't vacation and dumpster dive- my aunt was throwing out my grandmother's trach and spotted it.  Actually found my Homart window fan curbside the same day.  My uncle took a look at the Homart and said: "fire that up- I bet it runs- those things run forever".  He was right- they both ran well. We threw them is storage and when I drove out later that year, I brought them back home. 

I'd like to get the Hunter apart and totally restore it.  Then use it in place of my Country Aire, which could use a restoration.

Every time I look at Zachary's Lasko, I get jealous!   Talk about shiny and new looking! 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 04:50 pm
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I think you'll be able to get the blade off that way, Don. And Myles, if you're concerned about damage, just be gentle and patient. You can use one of those plastic toilet-seat bolts, which I did the second time I couldn't get the Eskimo's blade off.

Don, when I see that Hunter window fan of yours, I could puke! Why? I had one just like it that I found at the curb while walking my dog years ago. I went back with the car to pick it up, and put it in my dad's cellar. It worked well. I had planned to clean it up that summer. When I was on vacation in Portugal with a friend, my dad threw it out! He claimed it didn't work, but I knew it did. As you can imagine, I was livid, and still am when I think about it! Aaaarrrrgggghhhh! I never forgave him for that, and gave away a new tool set he had to spite him.

As for the box-fan history, I can't see why you couldn't tie it in to your Masters. I knew a girl who tied in the differences, histories, and uses of triple-track vs. double-track storm windows to her Masters. That is far more lame than fan history. Yes, indeed, there is data out there for the taking. You just have to find the right stuff and right people. Believe it or not, I've nearly completed the foreign portion of my WW2 car-production research. I find it insane that it was far easier to find out about foreign wartime production than domestic. Anyway, another thing I learned by doing intense research is that the more you know, the more you don't know. In other words, for nearly each fact you discover, you open up a Pandora's Box full of questions you can't find answers to!

As for the AFCA, I need to renew my membership. I let it lapse, unfortunately.

 

 

 

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Don Whipple wrote: Here is the Hunter.  I found it in a dumpster while visiting relatives in Illinois.  No, I don't vacation and dumpster dive- my aunt was throwing out my grandmother's trach and spotted it.  Actually found my Homart window fan curbside the same day.  My uncle took a look at the Homart and said: "fire that up- I bet it runs- those things run forever".  He was right- they both ran well. We threw them is storage and when I drove out later that year, I brought them back home. 

I'd like to get the Hunter apart and totally restore it.  Then use it in place of my Country Aire, which could use a restoration.

Every time I look at Zachary's Lasko, I get jealous!   Talk about shiny and new looking! 
It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Don, when I see that Hunter window fan of yours, I could puke! Why? I had one just like it that I found at the curb while walking my dog years ago. I went back with the car to pick it up, and put it in my dad's cellar. It worked well. I had planned to clean it up that summer. When I was on vacation in Portugal with a friend, my dad threw it out! He claimed it didn't work, but I knew it did. As you can imagine, I was livid, and still am when I think about it! Aaaarrrrgggghhhh! I never forgave him for that, and gave away a new tool set he had to spite him.


 



Bill, I screamed out loud as I read the part about the fan getting tossed.  If I had a dollar for everyone I knew that threw out a perefectly good fan, I could probably afford the excellent Lakewood P71 that is now on ebay for well over $100.

Thanks for the suggestions on the masters.  I agree with you in all aspects.

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Zachary Yarnes wrote: Don Whipple wrote: Here is the Hunter.  I found it in a dumpster while visiting relatives in Illinois.  No, I don't vacation and dumpster dive- my aunt was throwing out my grandmother's trach and spotted it.  Actually found my Homart window fan curbside the same day.  My uncle took a look at the Homart and said: "fire that up- I bet it runs- those things run forever".  He was right- they both ran well. We threw them is storage and when I drove out later that year, I brought them back home. 

I'd like to get the Hunter apart and totally restore it.  Then use it in place of my Country Aire, which could use a restoration.

Every time I look at Zachary's Lasko, I get jealous!   Talk about shiny and new looking! 
It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....

what made it catch fire did it have a ge motor

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I see that with the posting of the old Hunter, we are up to SIX PAGES!  YES!

I knew I kept that beast for a reason!

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 Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 05:23 pm
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Zachary Yarnes wrote: It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....


Zachary,

What do you use to polish and get the blades so shiny on the Lasko?  The blades on my box fans are quite shiny, just cleaning them with Windex keeps them fine, but the window fan blades are pretty dull.  I'd sure like to get my Country Aire in the condition your Lasko is in.

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Don Whipple wrote: Zachary Yarnes wrote: It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....


Zachary,

What do you use to polish and get the blades so shiny on the Lasko?  The blades on my box fans are quite shiny, just cleaning them with Windex keeps them fine, but the window fan blades are pretty dull.  I'd sure like to get my Country Aire in the condition your Lasko is in.


 

Don, there are ways to get better blades than that. In fact, with a clean rag and metal polish, you can make your blades look like they're chrome plated!
Most of the guys on the forum swear by MAAS but there is a better polish out there.... I use Autosol (a German import!) for all my fans. When applied, it doesn't dry and get hard like MAAS (it stays smooth and waxy) and it won't tend to leave fine scratches that stick out like a sore thumb in direct sunlight. I've tested both side by side and Autosol does it for me!.

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Nicholas Denney wrote: Don, there are ways to get better blades than that. In fact, with a clean rag and metal polish, you can make your blades look like they're chrome plated!
Most of the guys on the forum swear by MAAS but there is a better polish out there.... I use Autosol (a German import!) for all my fans. When applied, it doesn't dry and get hard like MAAS (it stays smooth and waxy) and it won't tend to leave fine scratches that stick out like a sore thumb in direct sunlight. I've tested both side by side and Autosol does it for me!.

Great!  I guess I have been living in the dark ages of blade cleaning/polishing.  I'll see if I can find Autosol and give the blades on the CA a polish.

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Don Whipple wrote: Nicholas Denney wrote: Don, there are ways to get better blades than that. In fact, with a clean rag and metal polish, you can make your blades look like they're chrome plated!
Most of the guys on the forum swear by MAAS but there is a better polish out there.... I use Autosol (a German import!) for all my fans. When applied, it doesn't dry and get hard like MAAS (it stays smooth and waxy) and it won't tend to leave fine scratches that stick out like a sore thumb in direct sunlight. I've tested both side by side and Autosol does it for me!.

Great!  I guess I have been living in the dark ages of blade cleaning/polishing.  I'll see if I can find Autosol and give the blades on the CA a polish.



That's the tricky part... I only stumbled upon Autosol because one of the local brass forges used and sold it ($8.50 a pop!) but MAAS can be found at Walmart for something like $3.50 for the same amount. :shock:

http://www.autosol.com/ looks like they're updating now... they used to have a cool/funny video on the main page.


Oops! Wrong link...

Here ya go - http://www.autosol.de/cgibin/dc-shop.cgi?f=KATEGORIE_SUB&c=Metallpolituren&t=temgroup&start=1&dif=5&desc=Metallpflege

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Michael Mirin wrote: Myles Gifford wrote: Austin B Ko wrote: Heres a Diehl box fan that I redid.

P.S those grills were chrome but were rusty like h*ll so I sanded them down and primered them then painted them.Also
5TH PAGE!!

you should paint the blades gloss red

Very cool paint Job!:up:
I like the color scheme.

Thanks, it was really hard to do.:clap:

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Don Whipple wrote: Zachary Yarnes wrote: It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....


Zachary,

What do you use to polish and get the blades so shiny on the Lasko?  The blades on my box fans are quite shiny, just cleaning them with Windex keeps them fine, but the window fan blades are pretty dull.  I'd sure like to get my Country Aire in the condition your Lasko is in.

I use Mothers Mag & Aluminum Polish, as for the motor, it's the original lasko one, it didn't actually catch on fire, it just glowed a bit cuz of dust on an exposed part of the wire, I can assure you that I practically ripped the plug out of the wall though :P

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Zachary Yarnes wrote: Don Whipple wrote: Zachary Yarnes wrote: It didn't always look like that :P
Edit: It also caught on fire the first time I ran it....


Zachary,

What do you use to polish and get the blades so shiny on the Lasko?  The blades on my box fans are quite shiny, just cleaning them with Windex keeps them fine, but the window fan blades are pretty dull.  I'd sure like to get my Country Aire in the condition your Lasko is in.

I use Mothers Mag & Aluminum Polish, as for the motor, it's the original lasko one, it didn't actually catch on fire, it just glowed a bit cuz of dust on an exposed part of the wire, I can assure you that I practically ripped the plug out of the wall though :P

lol at least you un pluged it quickly thats why i always have my fans i trash find pluged into a extenshion cord if it smokes i quickly rip it out and start tinkering

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That's why I always test my fans outside now...

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Zachary Yarnes wrote: That's why I always test my fans outside now...

i take mine in the garage or i should say the nastyer ones that look like a fire wateing to happen like all ge motor box fans:hammer:

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Check out this little dude.I got no idea who made it.

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Michael Mirin wrote: Check out this little dude.I got no idea who made it.
Are there any markings on the motor or in the housing of the fan? 

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Nothing. All thats on there is this appliance sticker.

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Michael Mirin wrote: Nothing. All thats on there is this appliance sticker.
What does the back of the fan look like?  The blade?  A lot of early, smaller window fans simply used the same blade as their desk fan counterpart.   I'm thinking maybe you can match the blade design to that of a desk fan manufactured in the 1940 (which is about when I'd think thta fan was manufactured).

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Looks like it may have the wrong blade... those 5-wing stamped aluminum blades seem to end up on fans a lot. Is that what it is? That enblem on back of the motor is pretty unique. Never seen one like it before!

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Nicholas Denney wrote: Looks like it may have the wrong blade... those 5-wing stamped aluminum blades seem to end up on fans a lot. Is that what it is? That enblem on back of the motor is pretty unique. Never seen one like it before!
You're right -- that's why I questioned that Eskimo on Fleabuy. I wonder if they were ever original to any fan, or just some cheap replacement blade that could be bought.

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You know, all this talk of crappy G.E. motors catching on fire or conking out or sending the shaft with blade across the room is a bit unnerving. Do you think I'll have trouble with my 12" boxer when I buy it from Ray? It's the box fan I've always wanted. Don't urinate on my dream, guys!

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Bill Kreiner wrote: You know, all this talk of crappy G.E. motors catching on fire or conking out or sending the shaft with blade across the room is a bit unnerving. Do you think I'll have trouble with my 12" boxer when I buy it from Ray? It's the box fan I've always wanted. Don't urinate on my dream, guys!
i dont think it will ge built the fans withere own badge on it better than the motors they sent out for lakewood if your motor looks diffrent than this your safe

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Nicholas Denney wrote: Looks like it may have the wrong blade... those 5-wing stamped aluminum blades seem to end up on fans a lot. Is that what it is? That enblem on back of the motor is pretty unique. Never seen one like it before!
You're right -- that's why I questioned that Eskimo on Fleabuy. I wonder if they were ever original to any fan, or just some cheap replacement blade that could be bought.

No, I saw the Eskimo- It came with that blade.  Was made in mid-late 70's, I'd bet.

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Myles Gifford wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: You know, all this talk of crappy G.E. motors catching on fire or conking out or sending the shaft with blade across the room is a bit unnerving. Do you think I'll have trouble with my 12" boxer when I buy it from Ray? It's the box fan I've always wanted. Don't urinate on my dream, guys!
i dont think it will ge built the fans withere own badge on it better than the motors they sent out for lakewood if your motor looks diffrent than this your safe


Ok, Ok, I know Myles and Nicholas had their fans burn up with GE motors of the cross design, but until then, I had never heard of a problem with one.  As I have stated before, I have one on a Lakewood XC20 that has been in my family since it was new in 1965.  It has always run well. 

That motor came on most Lakewood box and window fans, as well as many Sears Kenmore mid-level fans and also Vernco throughout the 1960s.  I have seen hundreds of fans sold with that motor that have had no problem.  Those motors had a 5 yr. warranty when new, longer than the usual 1 yr offered by most other manufacturers (only GE, Hunter, Emerson, Fasco and Westinghouse  routinely gave a 5yr.)

I'm far from a motor expert, but I think it's a bad coincidence and some drama about the motor being bad.  It is a fairly well made motor.  It has oil ports for both ends and the one on my fan runs fairly cool. 

And, no, the one on the 12 inch is quite a bit different. 

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Don Whipple wrote:No, I saw the Eskimo- It came with that blade.  Was made in mid-late 70's, I'd bet.I disagree, It doesn't seem right, the seller already said it was repainted, I don't find it hard to believe that the blade was replaced.
These 5 wing blades are more commonly seen on exhaust fans btw...

But are found on a lot of fans because they can be bought cheaply, I bought one off ebay for just a few bucks, it replaced my broken GE Quiet Fan blade...only until I get a replacement...
http://search.stores.ebay.com/8-fan-blade_W0QQdfspZ32QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ34QQsbrsrtZdQQsifZ1QQsofpZ4
My favorites are the rare 5 wing vornados that come up from time to time...

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Don Whipple wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Nicholas Denney wrote: Looks like it may have the wrong blade... those 5-wing stamped aluminum blades seem to end up on fans a lot. Is that what it is? That enblem on back of the motor is pretty unique. Never seen one like it before!
You're right -- that's why I questioned that Eskimo on Fleabuy. I wonder if they were ever original to any fan, or just some cheap replacement blade that could be bought.

No, I saw the Eskimo- It came with that blade.  Was made in mid-late 70's, I'd bet.


Wait a minute! It was you who said it wasn't correct, and you showed me the correct one, which I recognized! Are we on the same page here? This is the fan:


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Don Whipple wrote: Myles Gifford wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: You know, all this talk of crappy G.E. motors catching on fire or conking out or sending the shaft with blade across the room is a bit unnerving. Do you think I'll have trouble with my 12" boxer when I buy it from Ray? It's the box fan I've always wanted. Don't urinate on my dream, guys!
i dont think it will ge built the fans withere own badge on it better than the motors they sent out for lakewood if your motor looks diffrent than this your safe


Ok, Ok, I know Myles and Nicholas had their fans burn up with GE motors of the cross design, but until then, I had never heard of a problem with one.  As I have stated before, I have one on a Lakewood XC20 that has been in my family since it was new in 1965.  It has always run well. 

That motor came on most Lakewood box and window fans, as well as many Sears Kenmore mid-level fans and also Vernco throughout the 1960s.  I have seen hundreds of fans sold with that motor that have had no problem.  Those motors had a 5 yr. warranty when new, longer than the usual 1 yr offered by most other manufacturers (only GE, Hunter, Emerson, Fasco and Westinghouse  routinely gave a 5yr.)

I'm far from a motor expert, but I think it's a bad coincidence and some drama about the motor being bad.  It is a fairly well made motor.  It has oil ports for both ends and the one on my fan runs fairly cool. 

And, no, the one on the 12 inch is quite a bit different. 

 

That's good! *Whew!* My Lakewood has been holding up for many years (knocking on wood as I type!):


 

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Don wrote:And, no, the one on the 12 inch is quite a bit different.

Speaking of the 12-incher, doesn't that one have a couple of big brothers? I have seen 20-inchers that look similar. One is on E-bay right now, but with a brown box. I've seen white 20-inchers with three speeds and an circular inner frame surrounding the blades (is there a name for this? shroud, maybe?). Both of these have vertical motor-mount bars, whereas the 12-incher has a horizontal motor-mount bar, which I kind of like better aesthetically (don't ask me why, as I haven't a clue!).

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Whoa!  I was talking about the wrong fan.  There have been so many box fans on here in the last few days, I lost track of which fan it was you were speaking of.  No, that is not the correct blade on that fan.  It came with a 4 blade design like an Eskimo take fan.

The fan I thought you wre referring to was a small box fan with 5 plastic blades that was on here.  I'll have to look and see which one. 

Sorry to have confused you.

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Here is the one I won on Ebay:






THIS is the fan I thought you were speaking about as far as coming with the "correct blade"  I got Toastmaster and Eskimo confused- Same manufacturer

This one has the correct blade!

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Don Whipple wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: Here is the one I won on Ebay:






THIS is the fan I thought you were speaking about as far as coming with the "correct blade"  I got Toastmaster and Eskimo confused- Same manufacturer

This one has the correct blade!

 

Oh, good! That's the one I just bought on Ebay! I'm glad it's correct. I've never seen this kind of Toastmaster before. I'm not particularly fond of the motor being mounted to the rear grate, as it makes disassembling for cleaning a pain. But Myles mentioned the benefits of this design.

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Bill. The motor on that looks a lot bigger than most 12 inch fan motors. I know it is the original motor, but did they use a motor for a bigger fan?

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Don Whipple wrote: Myles Gifford wrote: Bill Kreiner wrote: You know, all this talk of crappy G.E. motors catching on fire or conking out or sending the shaft with blade across the room is a bit unnerving. Do you think I'll have trouble with my 12" boxer when I buy it from Ray? It's the box fan I've always wanted. Don't urinate on my dream, guys!
i dont think it will ge built the fans withere own badge on it better than the motors they sent out for lakewood if your motor looks diffrent than this your safe


Ok, Ok, I know Myles and Nicholas had their fans burn up with GE motors of the cross design, but until then, I had never heard of a problem with one.  As I have stated before, I have one on a Lakewood XC20 that has been in my family since it was new in 1965.  It has always run well. 

That motor came on most Lakewood box and window fans, as well as many Sears Kenmore mid-level fans and also Vernco throughout the 1960s.  I have seen hundreds of fans sold with that motor that have had no problem.  Those motors had a 5 yr. warranty when new, longer than the usual 1 yr offered by most other manufacturers (only GE, Hunter, Emerson, Fasco and Westinghouse  routinely gave a 5yr.)

I'm far from a motor expert, but I think it's a bad coincidence and some drama about the motor being bad.  It is a fairly well made motor.  It has oil ports for both ends and the one on my fan runs fairly cool. 

And, no, the one on the 12 inch is quite a bit different. 

 

That's good! *Whew!* My Lakewood has been holding up for many years (knocking on wood as I type!):


 


OK... lemme straigten this out once and for all. IT IS PROVEN that copper and aluminum don't like each other (they react and corrode each other) and IT IS PROVEN that GE motors of certain make contain this disastrous combination, HOWEVER, you will be safe if the fan has not been exposed to very high temperatures and moisture levels (such would cause the winding's insulation to break down)

Problem solved.

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Bill Kreiner wrote: Don wrote:And, no, the one on the 12 inch is quite a bit different.

Speaking of the 12-incher, doesn't that one have a couple of big brothers? I have seen 20-inchers that look similar. One is on E-bay right now, but with a brown box. I've seen white 20-inchers with three speeds and an circular inner frame surrounding the blades (is there a name for this? shroud, maybe?). Both of these have vertical motor-mount bars, whereas the 12-incher has a horizontal motor-mount bar, which I kind of like better aesthetically (don't ask me why, as I haven't a clue!).


Yes, that large one on Ebay was manufactured at about the same time as the 12 inch you so desire.  They came in 2, 3 sp and 3 sp reversible.  I have never seen a 5 blade window fan.  I wonder if they were made to, or if GE just ran out the older 3 blade designs on window fans as Hunter did when they switched blades (to 7). 

That ring you refer to is called a "Venturi Ring".  It made the fan much more effecient by not allowing air to come off the blade edge and collect in the coners of the fan.  If you stand in front of a box fan with a venturi ring, as compared to without, you will find that the airflow is more direct.  It made the fans much better ventilators as well and it is rare that window fans came without the ring.  As far as effeciency, there was as much as 1000-1500 cfm circulating difference (measured 4 ft. from the fan) in fans with the ring.  The top of the line Lakewood (I cannot recall the model #- I think P89) in 1975 was rated at 6500 CFM and had the same motor design as the P42 which had no ring, was not reversible and was rated only at 5000 CFM. 

I only know the Lakewood numbers because I read them in Consumer Reports as a kid- I loved shiny Lakewoods even then, at 10 yrs old! 

Keep in mind, exhaust CFM- measured by air a fan pulls through an enclosure away from it, is much lower than the ratings they used.  A 6500 CFM circulator would be rated at about 2500-3000 exhaust CFMS.

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Allen Colson wrote: Bill. The motor on that looks a lot bigger than most 12 inch fan motors. I know it is the original motor, but did they use a motor for a bigger fan?

Yes, I was wondering about that myself before I bid on it, but the fact that it seems to fit onto the grate properly made me conclude that it is original...I hope! I haven't seen many Toastmasters, so I don't know if the same motor was used on bigger fans. I have another Toasty 12-incher (which has a smaller motor):

 

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Nicholas Denney wrote:


OK... lemme straigten this out once and for all. IT IS PROVEN that copper and aluminum don't like each other (they react and corrode each other) and IT IS PROVEN that GE motors of certain make contain this disastrous combination, HOWEVER, you will be safe if the fan has not been exposed to very high temperatures and moisture levels (such would cause the winding's insulation to break down)

Problem solved.
So, my question would be:  Do any other motors contain this combination of aluminum and copper?

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Don Whipple wrote: Nicholas Denney wrote:


OK... lemme straigten this out once and for all. IT IS PROVEN that copper and aluminum don't like each other (they react and corrode each other) and IT IS PROVEN that GE motors of certain make contain this disastrous combination, HOWEVER, you will be safe if the fan has not been exposed to very high temperatures and moisture levels (such would cause the winding's insulation to break down)

Problem solved.
So, my question would be:  Do any other motors contain this combination of aluminum and copper?



Maybe.... maybe not!

I had to physically CUT the windings apart in my motor to expose the smaller (heavier guage) aluminum wire winding underneath it. Not exactly something you'd want to do unless your motor is already blown!

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Allen Colson wrote: Bill. The motor on that looks a lot bigger than most 12 inch fan motors. I know it is the original motor, but did they use a motor for a bigger fan?
Yeah, I wonder if that fan has the original motor?  The blade is correct, but that motor is huge!  Plus, it's a different color than the fan, which is rare in that make, or most any make of fan.

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I have a feeling that it is original to that fan. It has mountings identical to larger fans and looks almost big enough for a 20'' fan. The spacing between the vertical wires on the grill seems made to accommodate that motor.

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