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 Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 05:57 am
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So here are pictures of my fan. It is a Westinghouse A0101-1. The blades are plastic, not metal, but the case is a heavy steel. This is unrestored, but I am hoping to do a little work to it (with help, I am clueless!) The rest is really just cleaning it up and maybe repainting the cage part (if it is easy to get off). It runs well, but does not oscillate anymore.

Does anyone have a date on this fan? My dad bought it but does not remember when. Judging by the color, I would say 1950s sometime.

I am new to this "fandom" (har har) but I see so many beautiful pieces on here. Something so cool about these beautifully styled old fans that are still running, decades after they were made. Today's fans are certainly not memorable! I want to replace this Holmes piece of junk in my office with another cool fan now!

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 Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 05:57 am
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And a side/top view:

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 Posted: Tue Jul 28th, 2009 12:46 pm
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Hi Beth.

Your Westinghouse is a Lively-Aire model and was the last model that they made. The early ones had metal blades and the later ones had plastic blades.

I will link you to an interesting thread that tells about the dates of each model and the workings. I don't have any experience with these, but they appear to be pretty easy to fix. They are just hard to put back together. I imagine that the oscillation stopped working because there is old gummy grease inside. I have had fans do that as well and it was an easy fix to clean out the old grease and add new and get them to oscillate.

Here's the thread: http://afca.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=5553&forum_id=1&highlight=lively+aire

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 Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 04:29 am
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Thank you for the info and the link to a great thread. Very interesting!

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 Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 03:48 pm
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I will check my catalogs (I have catalogs covering 1936 to 1964 Westies) to see exactly when it was made. The first Livelyaire debuted in 1946, and had metal blades. In 1954, the switch was made to hemcolite blades. Yours is likely from the early 1960s, and may be a spin-off of the true Livelyaire. Thanks for posting the cat. #; that is most helpful.

I'll get back to you...

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Bill, the thread I linked said that the last Lively-Aire is the aqua one from 1964. So I guess it is in the 1964 catalog. I'm not sure why Beth's doesn't have the little wings between the blades, but it's the first aqua one I have seen. After these, were the stamped steel ones from the early 70s.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 04:43 pm
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Cole Day wrote: Bill, the thread I linked said that the last Lively-Aire is the aqua one from 1964. So I guess it is in the 1964 catalog. I'm not sure why Beth's doesn't have the little wings between the blades, but it's the first aqua one I have seen. After these, were the stamped steel ones from the early 70s.
Yes, but there was a slightly cheaper spin-off of the Livelyaire introduced circa 1960 that had another name (which eludes me ATM), and I believe it looked like this one. I'll have to check my catalogs when I get home.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 29th, 2009 06:28 pm
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I asked my mother about this fan... she thinks my father already had it before they were married in 1954. That doesn't sound like it jibes with your dates, so she may be remembering it wrong (hey, she is 79 :-)

Interesting none of you have seen the aqua color before. It is what I like best about it!

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 Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 05:22 am
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Hi Beth,

Your fan is definetly a late a Livelyaire desk fan from the mid 60's.Westinghouse was starting to cheapen their line up of fans in the 60's and these fans had no switch,just plug it in to run.Still very good fans.Westinghouse also had a non oscillating fan called a Leader series.The oscillating mechanisim was deleted from the fan and would not oscillate.They were used in comercial applications or if the purchaser wanted a less expensive line of fans.Your fan in the torquise color was popular in the mid 60's.It wasn't till the early 70's that Westinghouse discontinued their Livelyaire line of fans styled like your fan.It was a very popular fan and had a long production run from the mid 40's till the late 60's

Hope this helps you date you fan.If it was any earlier it would have been a mauve color with a beige blade and chrome or white guard.

Jeff :cool: 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 04:15 pm
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Cole Day wrote: Bill, the thread I linked said that the last Lively-Aire is the aqua one from 1964. So I guess it is in the 1964 catalog. I'm not sure why Beth's doesn't have the little wings between the blades, but it's the first aqua one I have seen. After these, were the stamped steel ones from the early 70s.Those wings between the blades were only featured on the 12" models and not the 10" models.  I have the very same fan Beth posted and it was my very first fan to start my collection

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 Posted: Sat Aug 1st, 2009 04:15 pm
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Beth:

I checked my catalogs, and the A010 debuted in 1961. It's not considered a Livelyaire, but a Special, so I remembered correctly that yours is a spin-off of the Livelyaire. I only have catalogs going up to 1964, and this is listed in all the 1961-1964 ones. The color is "seafoam green" for 1961-1963, and "aqua" for 1964, though I think both these names refer to the same hue.

Since the cat. # of yours is A010-1, it must be from beyond 1964, as the "1" suffix is not shown in my catalogs. I'd say yours is from the middle or late 1960s. Suffixes were often added when slight changes were made.

If you need a scan, let me know. The 1961-1962 catalogs both show a drawing of the fan, whereas the 1963-1964 catalogs just list it.

Interestingly, in 1962, the old Pacemaker name returned to designate a fan similar to the Livelyaire, but with transparent blue blades (like on the Flipper).

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I have one with the transparent blue blades.  It runs extremely well!

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1962 catalog scan:

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1964 catalog scan

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Thanks for that information Bill.I guess this would be a Pacemaker.Model# AD12-1

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Hi, Logan. Yes, you have a Pacemaker. Since the cat. # of yours has a "1" suffix, it must be post-1964. I unfortunately have no catalogs for post-1964 models. Yours also has a white base, whereas the earlier ones have blue bases (and motor housings).

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My clear blue blade is shaped different than the one above.  It is shaped like the fan that started this discussion at the top.  Mine is blue, with a chrome cage, and blue wires. 

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It does look white in the picture but it's about the same color as Beth's.The cord also matches the fan.

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Cole Day wrote: Bill, the thread I linked said that the last Lively-Aire is the aqua one from 1964. So I guess it is in the 1964 catalog. I'm not sure why Beth's doesn't have the little wings between the blades, but it's the first aqua one I have seen. After these, were the stamped steel ones from the early 70s.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=CpNQAAAAEBAJ&dq=2872988 :D

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If you put the name Gustav H. Koch into the Google patent search engine you will see practically everything in the catalog material Bill has posted.  Gustav Koch was busy with Westinghouse ventilation starting in the 30s.  Must of been a contract engineer.  

The CLOCKWISE ROTATION Whirlaire was his baby.  The mobilaire is his baby.  The Livelyaire is his baby.  Etc.  

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 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2009 07:21 pm
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Bill Kreiner wrote:

Since the cat. # of yours is A010-1, it must be from beyond 1964, as the "1" suffix is not shown in my catalogs. I'd say yours is from the middle or late 1960s. Suffixes were often added when slight changes were made.

If you need a scan, let me know. The 1961-1962 catalogs both show a drawing of the fan, whereas the 1963-1964 catalogs just list it.



Thanks for all the info! You are all such a wealth of knowledge :)

I remember the fan being used in my bedroom when I was around 6 years old, so my parents certainly had it had it by 1968 or so. So the mid-60s seems like a good approximation.

So now to get the motor all cleaned up and running cooler!

I like the version with the blue transparent blades, too!

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Bill,Beth,& All,

FYI,I checked my Westinghouse Livelyaire collection for the fan in question (Westinghouse A010) and I have a near mint Livelyaire in the seafoam/aqua green color as described in an original carton with the operating instructions and a receipt dated July 21st.1964.The fan was sold for a mere $13.88 with tax.

Even though your catalouge scan list the fan as a special 10"oscillating fan Bill,my fan came in a Westinghouse carton marked as a Livelyaire Fan in the standard Westinghouse carton with the blue and orange markings,and the A010 stamped on the carton.I'd venture to say that these fans were Livelyaire fans just renamed by Westinghouse to fill a void in the low priced line.Thus the name (special).Also I think the Livelyaire fans with the azore blue color with the translucent blue blades as the catalouge refers to were actually top of the line Livelyaire fans with the chrome guards,snap switch,and color matching power cords just renamed with the Pacemaker names as to not be confused with other Westinghouse line of desk fans.I have about 5 of these fans and think they are neat looking and a first in the industry with the translucent blue blades.I do remember seeing the mauve color Livelyaire fans with the chrome guards with the translucent blades in the early 60's in a local appliance store thinking that they were cool looking.

Bill,Even though your catoluge shows a date of 1962 for the Pacemaker/Livelyaire Westinghouse fans with the translucent blue blades and the Azure blue base and motors,I think they were introduced as early as 1959.Westinghouse was changing to the blue/torquise colors in the mid to late 50's and most Westinghouse fans were these colors.Exceptions were most Livelaire 10" & 12" fans.

Hope this helps some with the dating.Just my opnion.:wondering:

Jeff...:cool:

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It's not surprising that Westinghouse engaged in "badge engineering," Jeff. I only have my catalogs to draw upon. But I do notice discrepancies even in those, when it comes to naming conventions. Also, Westinghouse appears to have interchanged parts from model to model, causing slight appearance changes, while retaining the same catalog numbers.

It's nutty!

I checked 1959, 1960, and 1961, but don't see the blue-bladed Pacemakers listed or depicted.

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I think it is amazing the quality you got for that price. Solid, steel base, motors that run forever, and blades that stay balanced for 50 years... and the designs were just so cool--I can see why you all enjoy collecting them.

Contrast that to the (ugly) Holmes floor/stand fan that lasted me about two years before the blades started going thwap thwap thwap against the flimsy plastic guard. In my office resides its equally junky desk fan replacement, which will no doubt die within a year or two (and should, because it is also ugly). I cant imagine anyone will ever collect these pieces of crap.

The Westinghouse is in my living room, where people inevitably remark on its coolness :)

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Jeff, the more I think about this, the more it makes sense that the A010 "Standard" would have been shipped in a Livelyaire box (but marked with A010), because the fan was clearly and obviously a derivative of the Livelyaire (as was the blue-bladed "Pacemaker"), and as you suggest, part of the overall "Livelyaire" category. Interestingly, I have bought brand-new fans whose boxes didn't depict, and sometimes didn't accurately describe, the contents. I'd be more inclined to go by the catalog, since here the different names employed by Westinghouse for various model lines would likely be listed in a more accurate fashion. When writing our article, Myles and I will list these fans under a "Livelyaire" heading. I'm sure we'll have many questions for you once writing begins, Jeff!

I know for a few years after the 16PM Pacemaker officially changed designation to the 16SD Standard, in 1946, the fan was still loosely referred to as a Pacemaker (at least through 1948). It can be confusing!

I was wondering if Westinghouse's blue-bladed 1960s Pacemakers and Flippers had the industry's first transparent blue blades. It's great that they did!

 

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Jeff, would it be possible to see a photo of the carton? Just curious as to what it came in :)

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Beth,

I don't have a pic of the carton right now,but if you look on eBay you might see a 50's Livelyaire with the box.I think an auction for one in the box ended tonight 8/4/09. The cartons are pretty much all alike,except for the early ones from the 40's.I have a digital camera and haven't quite mastered posting photos yet.You definetly have a nice fan.Use it in good health.I gave one to an AFCA member when he visited back in 2007 after our Fan Fair.I cleaned it up and lubricated it,ready for alot more fan seasons of use.Well his Mom decided to use it in the kitchen and loves the color.It's now her fan.Go figure. 

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Bill,

Yes I agree with you that Westinghouse used what was on hand,and it didn't make econominal sense to make up special cartons just because they decided to make a name change to fans currently in production.

Westinghouse evidently used the Livelyaire line of fans extensively throughout the years rebranding them from time to time.When these fans are side by side there are subtle changes to them if any at all with the exception of color changes. They pretty much remained unchanged thru their production runs.If it ain't broke why fix it ? Just improve on it.

Westinghouse seemed to flip back and forth over the years with name changes on the same fans and there was little documentation by Westinghouse.So as you say it's a mystery as to what was produced,and when was it produced.I think there was alot of overlapping thur the years at Westinghouse.Catoluges and brochures are just about all we have to go on as Westinghouse never really kept their tag info in any cronogical order.

I guess it's a learning curve and we learn as we go along.I pretty much go on what I rememeber seeing over the years,and the brochures I've seen or have.Another local member Tom knows alot about the Westinghouse box/window,and Riveira fans and has quite alot of them,so I am learning more info about that line of Westinghouse fans from him.Between the two of us we have figured out alot about the 50's line of fans.Also Ray Hane a member had a Westinghouse brochure from the early 70's at Fan Fair in 2007.I got to look at it and alot of the fans from the 1964 catoluge you scaned were still in production.Interesting indeed. 

Yes it is confusing,but I think in time we will eventually get the info down pat.

And YES I do think that Westinghouse was the first in the industry to use the translucent blades,afterall they introuduced the Hemocolite blades in 1954.I believe that that was probably one of the first fan manufactures to do so.

I have the Blue Livelyaires with the blue translucent blades,and a flipper fan with it's original carton.I think they were priemium of top of the line fans for Westinghouse at that time and were cool looking too.:cool:

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Hello Beth, Thought I'd add a picture of my two "SPECIALS" for you. Tim

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here the other in champagne finish

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Your "Special" looks like my "Special" :) Very nice, both of them!

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Yes I have the pinkish one. Its a cool small fan. Too bad the blades are plastic. Love the colors they came in!

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I just redid my bathroom in turquoise and chocolate brown and my fan has become an objet d'art in it!

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