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 Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2012 03:54 pm
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David Hunter
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I just recieved this Veritys fan and I know nothing about it. It is in all original condition but it is missing its cage and struts. The fan is actually smaller in life than in these photos. It is short and compact. Apparently the earliest Veritys known to date is the Veritys Aston Typhoon made in 1905. The Aston Typhoon is in the last photo here. What is interesting is that Veritys became Veritys LTD in 1896 and that is what is written on all of their fans. This Veritys I have here just says, Veritys A.C. Fan. It also has the rare sunburst logo on the tag. Being that it is an AC fan, I would presume that the fan is later than the Aston Typhoon or perhaps made around the same time. Another option is that it is was made before 1905 in some other Veritys factory before the LTD was incorporated. I do not know. I know this is a shot in the dark too but if anyone knows where I can get a cage and struts for this fan, I would greatly appreciate it.








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 Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2012 04:16 pm
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David,
Congratulations on your find. I know that you are very fond of Veritys and that this one should be a real challenge. If you can locate a photo or illustration showing what the cage and struts looked like you should be home free...well, not quite "free".

I wonder about the possibility that the fan was not made by Veritys but was made FOR them much like Westinghouse, GE, and R&M made fans for Western Electric and, a better example; Westinghouse AC fans made for R&M. If Veritys had only made DC fans early on perhaps they got into the AC market though another company. Just a thought, not much else. Keep us posted on your new find and, now that it is pictured maybe someone will come up with more info.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2012 08:03 pm
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Got yourself another daily runner????

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 Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2012 11:28 pm
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Wow...thats really something!!

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 02:46 am
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I guess with four Veritys' in your possession, you're still denying that you're a fan collector.......

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 04:57 am
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Steve Stephens wrote:
I wonder about the possibility that the fan was not made by Veritys but was made FOR them much like Westinghouse, GE, and R&M made fans for Western Electric and, a better example; Westinghouse AC fans made for R&M. If Veritys had only made DC fans early on perhaps they got into the AC market though another company. Just a thought, not much else. Keep us posted on your new find and, now that it is pictured maybe someone will come up with more info.

Steve, I too have been wondering about the possibility that Veritys might have farmed out the work through another company. Upon examination, I somehow doubt it. Even though the Aston Typhoon is ribbed, the profile of these fans are too similar. It is too difficult to tell which fan is earlier also. In addition, the ball motor on the A.C. fan is trademark Veritys. I would be very surprised if this fan is rebadged from somewhere else but it is always a possibility... Russ, where are you when I need you?

Kim. I am still not a fan collector. I am looking high and low in my apartment and I see but one non-working fan. It looks like you are building up a nice collection of fans, however. Give me an Emerson 1115, an '03 Eck oscillator, and a Meston, and then I will call myself a fan collector. These are the only fans I really want.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 05:22 am
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David Hunter wrote:
Give me an Emerson 1115, an '03 Eck oscillator, and a Meston, and then I will call myself a fan collector. These are the only fans I really want.

Give me?:wondering::D

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 05:24 am
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:up:

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 06:12 am
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Hi Russ, Thanks for the photo of the Aston Typhoon with an open ringed cage. I have a feeling that the cage for this A.C. fan is similar. The struts, however, would be different. On the Aston Typhoon, the struts are mounted on the front part of the ball motor. On the A.C. Veritys, even though the struts are positioned in the same place, 12, 4, and 8 o'clock, the struts were mounted directly on the ball motor itself. It looks at if the struts had to be bent forward to some degree in order to allow the cage to be forward of the blades. Another similiarity to the Typhoon fan is that the blades look the same.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 06:24 am
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Louis Luu
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Here is a blown up picture.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 06:32 am
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Both pictures are 08.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 21st, 2013 12:55 pm
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Hi David, did you ever figure this fan out for a date or find a cage. The oiler looks like its off a orbital or from that era so I guess that would put it somewhere around the 20's.

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Hi Matt. I did not find out the date of this A.C.Veritys yet nor have I found a cage. What I did find is that the base and trunnion of the Veritys is a dead ringer for EMI fans. Which came first, the EMI or Veritys? I don't know. I don't think the fan is from the 20's because it does not say Veritys LTD. Even though the EMI and Veritys motors look similar, the Veritys is different. The shape is different and the struts on the Veritys mount centrally around the ball whereas the EMI struts mount at the front of its ball motor. If some of our european buddies have an EMI fan similar to the one pictured here, it would help nail the date of the Veritys. This Veritys is the only the second I've seen with the round motor tag that says "Aston" and has the sunburst logo on it. The other is the Veritys Aston Typhoon fan, pictured above, in Stefan Osdene's collection.

My best guess: 1910 - 1915?

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The design on the motor tag is very similar to that on the delhi fans, but with the oval shape it must be from a period in between so I think your date is probably about right.
Do you know what the No on the tag represents, is it like a serial number from production or a model number. I noticed my number is lower than the one on Paul's fan but Jim Dunn's Delhi is a lower number again, unless maybe they started counting at a million and went backwards. It's like solving how the pyramids were built :cry:

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Another turned up without a cage... wired it up lubed her up and away she went , really sweet and pretty quite


this ones has bolts hoding motor in the yoke









Had a spare (but poor shape) veritys light cage lying around that fits , which i think must of been same set up as this fan going by how the struts bolt to motor... has anyone got one with orinal cage fitted they can post pic of ?








these are the only two ive seen ...
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