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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:13 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Here is a nice original Northwind Universal motor fan.
Cleaned very lightly to preserve finish - replaced power cord, used original Benjamin attachment plug (pat. 10-3-11 on plug)

When I test ran it, it quickly started to slowdown & overheat. Not sure why - the blade spins with little resistance & it is lubed - haven't inspected the brushes.

"D" dates this to 1919 according to our info section.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:13 pm
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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:13 pm
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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:14 pm
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Benjamin attachment plug

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:15 pm
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test run :violin:

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:17 pm
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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:41 pm
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Nice northwind 44. From 1916 to 1926 the 44A thru 44H or 44. How do you tell then apart? I have 2 one with just 44 Badge and one with no cage. Thanks Ellis  Where is the D located? Is it usually on the badge? Anywhere else? Just trying to improve my knowledge I like these fans.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:46 pm
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44-A is a first year fan (1916)
After that, letters added a-b-c-d- etc.
See the Info Section on this site, there is a table with dates.

I have a parts fan somewhere if you need a cage

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:47 pm
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I think the plain 44 might be 1926

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Here is a 44-A,
I gave 2 of this to a young college grad who works for a fan manufacturing company,
He will give me back the parts he doesn't need after making one complete running fan!

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:52 pm
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On 44's to get a date you do this... If you have a number 44 with a letter following,  the letter is the year of manufacture... a number 44 with no letter following will have a micro Date at the bottom of the badge and that will indicate the year for example... if the micro # is 10 or 11 or 12... add 20 for a close approximation of the date...  so... if it is a 10... add 20 and it will be about a 1930 fan... 44 with a letter following will be earlier...   Check the info section for dating 44's and juniors

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 03:58 pm
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Post a picture on the cage and let me know a price. How about brush holder, caps and brushes. both brush holders broken on one fan. thanks Ellis

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 04:09 pm
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My 44 badge is just like the first one in the first picture. If you look closely under alternating or direct you will see the letter D.  No numbers anywhere on the bottom of the badge. Thanks George and Steve for your replys. If you don`t have a cage with a badge how do you tell what letter it is?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 04:59 pm
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George Durbin wrote: On 44's to get a date you do this... If you have a number 44 with a letter following,  the letter is the year of manufacture... a number 44 with no letter following will have a micro Date at the bottom of the badge and that will indicate the year for example... if the micro # is 10 or 11 or 12... add 20 for a close approximation of the date...  so... if it is a 10... add 20 and it will be about a 1930 fan... 44 with a letter following will be earlier...   Check the info section for dating 44's and juniors
I think we have mostly been referring to the "date" you mentioned here as the "date code".  A "micro date" is the tiny (very tiny) actual date on Westinghouse motor and data tags starting around 1909-10 and is a true date, not of manufacture, but when a batch of data tags were ordered and applies to many Westinghouse items other than fans.  I have a c.1921 Westinghouse battery radio and each of the two units have their own micro dates just like c.1910 and later Westy fans.
The 44A is too early to have a date code on the cage badge and I don't know about the later 44s if they have a code or not.

The Northwind 44A has a blade with sharper outer corners than the subsequent Northwind 44s and also has 110 V and AC-DC cast into the front of the motor as shown below.  None of the later Northwind 44s have that writing.   If a cage is missing I don't know how one would tell the letter suffix.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 05:32 pm
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Steve on the badge with type 44 and no letter after the 44 on the badge that has a small letter D under the line or direct and under it made in the united states of america. Does this mean anything that you know of?  Thanks for the info on the casting info on the motor. I really hadn`t noticed the small d before. Wonder if there are other letters on different badges. Thanks Ellis

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 Posted: Mon Feb 29th, 2016 06:03 pm
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Steve Stephens wrote: George Durbin wrote: On 44's to get a date you do this... If you have a number 44 with a letter following,  the letter is the year of manufacture... a number 44 with no letter following will have a micro Date at the bottom of the badge and that will indicate the year for example... if the micro # is 10 or 11 or 12... add 20 for a close approximation of the date...  so... if it is a 10... add 20 and it will be about a 1930 fan... 44 with a letter following will be earlier...   Check the info section for dating 44's and juniors
I think we have mostly been referring to the "date" you mentioned here as the "date code".  A "micro date" is the tiny (very tiny) actual date on Westinghouse motor and data tags starting around 1909-10 and is a true date, not of manufacture, but when a batch of data tags were ordered and applies to many Westinghouse items other than fans.  I have a c.1921 Westinghouse battery radio and each of the two units have their own micro dates just like c.1910 and later Westy fans.
The 44A is too early to have a date code on the cage badge and I don't know about the later 44s if they have a code or not.

The Northwind 44A has a blade with sharper outer corners than the subsequent Northwind 44s and also has 110 V and AC-DC cast into the front of the motor as shown below.  None of the later Northwind 44s have that writing.   If a cage is missing I don't know how one would tell the letter suffix.


Hi Steve!This 44 in your picture IS the 1st year of the 44 line circa 1916 The reason we know this is because of the embossed front  covers only on the first year of manufacture had embossed front covers... Every year after used smooth covers with letter after the 44 or a micro Date under the ac-DC
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Right on, George,

There is no Northwind 44, and when are you going to pick up your custom Northwind?.

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OK, I misread the table - mine is a "D" = 1922-23
I never noticed the embossed letters on the front motor housing.

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There is no small d on my fan's badge.  There are no "micro dates" (which is an actual date) on Emerson fans, just "date codes" after c.1923 on some models like the Jr.

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Steven P Dempsey wrote: Here is a nice original Northwind Universal motor fan.
Cleaned very lightly to preserve finish - replaced power cord, used original Benjamin attachment plug (pat. 10-3-11 on plug)

When I test ran it, it quickly started to slowdown & overheat. Not sure why - the blade spins with little resistance & it is lubed - haven't inspected the brushes.

"D" dates this to 1919 according to our info section.
I have a 44a that did that, replacing the brushes solved the problem, runs cool for hours now.

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It is a 44A...   1916
Geo...

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What model badge would this be? What about the D under the word direct is this of any meaning?  This was what I was wondering about earlier if the pix went thru ok first time I tried this. Thanks everyone for your help.  Ellis

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Chart says:  44D.    Circa 1922-23
Geo...

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So the little D did mean something even though it wasn`t right after the 44. Thanks George I happen to like the northwind 44s and the junior fans also. Like the old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words" Thanks everyone for your help. really learned a lot more about the 44s. Ellis

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Ellis Fentress wrote: So the little D did mean something even though it wasn`t right after the 44. Thanks George I happen to like the northwind 44s and the junior fans also. Like the old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words" Thanks everyone for your help. really learned a lot more about the 44s. Ellis
HI Ellis!
We R Crazy bout fans and their history! Lots of good info here that can only be found here!! Fanners are good guys and girls!!
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Geo...

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Lots of chatter here about this fan of which I now have a 44D. I would like to obtain a brush holder with cap for it. Anyone know where I might obtain this?

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I'd check with Darryl Hudson. If he's not made one before, you might be able to send him the remaining one to use as a pattern to copy. 
Good luck! 

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