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 Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2017 03:58 am
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Recently picked up a Peerless 12" Direct Current, Front Oscillator in the rough.  Anybody else have one?  Can't find another on the net.

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Sounds like a rare fan Ron.    Can you post a photo?  There are tab foot base front oscillators and cone base and they are completely different fans.

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Steve Stephens wrote:
Sounds like a rare fan Ron.    Can you post a photo?  There are tab foot base front oscillators and cone base and they are completely different fans.


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Very nice! I really like it. Looks pretty rare to me but what do I know :wondering:

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Can you post a closeup of the oscillator? It looks really different.

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I like that fan but the front gearbox; is it missing parts or maybe an earlier one than I know about.   I have a tab foot Colonial front oscillator (same as Peerless) and a DC stationary Peerless similar to your oscillator.    Let's see who knows what about your fan.

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Don Tener wrote: Very nice! I really like it. Looks pretty rare to me but what do I know :wondering:



Thanks!   Bought it by flashlight (parking lot) in the early morning hours of the Chicagoland coin-op show last November.  Didn't know it was DC until I got it in the light.  I'm a novice!!

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Steve Stephens wrote: I like that fan but the front gearbox; is it missing parts or maybe an earlier one than I know about.   I have a tab foot Colonial front oscillator (same as Peerless) and a DC stationary Peerless similar to your oscillator.    Let's see who knows what about your fan.

Thanks!  I don't know anything about it.  However, it looks like a screw is missing that attaches the arm to the ?? disc.

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Ron Wallace wrote: Steve Stephens wrote: I like that fan but the front gearbox; is it missing parts or maybe an earlier one than I know about.   I have a tab foot Colonial front oscillator (same as Peerless) and a DC stationary Peerless similar to your oscillator.    Let's see who knows what about your fan.

Thanks!  I don't know anything about it.  However, it looks like a screw is missing that attaches the arm to the ?? disc.
You are missing a shoulder bolt. From what I can see if you get it that is all you will need to make it oscillate. Great fan.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 5th, 2017 08:29 am
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Also it looks like it is 110 volt. All you should need to run it is a rectifier bridge.


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Ron Wallace wrote: Bought it by flashlight (parking lot) in the early morning hours of the Chicagoland coin-op show last November.  Didn't know it was DC until I got it in the light.  I'm a novice!!
At least you had a light to show you a great fan.   Now you are close to no longer being a novice as that fan is a gem and very rare.   Before you tear into it you might want to get it complete and running with some lubrication then decide what you want to do with it.  The original finish looks like it would clean up quite decently so you could keep the look of age on the fan (yeah, that's the way I like them and would do to your fan if it were my fan).     I have never seen an oscillator/gearbox and geardtrain like that anywhere and it's very different from the Peerless front oscillators I have had and seen.   Go slowly and ask for help if you need; that's a fan to be very proud of.

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Steve Stephens wrote: Ron Wallace wrote: Bought it by flashlight (parking lot) in the early morning hours of the Chicagoland coin-op show last November.  Didn't know it was DC until I got it in the light.  I'm a novice!!
At least you had a light to show you a great fan.   Now you are close to no longer being a novice as that fan is a gem and very rare.   Before you tear into it you might want to get it complete and running with some lubrication then decide what you want to do with it.  The original finish looks like it would clean up quite decently so you could keep the look of age on the fan (yeah, that's the way I like them and would do to your fan if it were my fan).     I have never seen an oscillator/gearbox and geardtrain like that anywhere and it's very different from the Peerless front oscillators I have had and seen.   Go slowly and ask for help if you need; that's a fan to be very proud of.

Thanks Steve!  I really appreciate the advice.  I know that I don't have the expertise to "tear into it."   I recently met Paul Graves in Harrison, AR. while dropping off a fan for repair.    I briefly mentioned the Peerless and told him that I would bring it to him for an overview and possibly a "mechanical" restore.   I might do a little cleaning on it......surely I won't mess that up.  😬


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Ron Wallace wrote: Steve Stephens wrote: Ron Wallace wrote: Bought it by flashlight (parking lot) in the early morning hours of the Chicagoland coin-op show last November.  Didn't know it was DC until I got it in the light.  I'm a novice!!
At least you had a light to show you a great fan.   Now you are close to no longer being a novice as that fan is a gem and very rare.   Before you tear into it you might want to get it complete and running with some lubrication then decide what you want to do with it.  The original finish looks like it would clean up quite decently so you could keep the look of age on the fan (yeah, that's the way I like them and would do to your fan if it were my fan).     I have never seen an oscillator/gearbox and geardtrain like that anywhere and it's very different from the Peerless front oscillators I have had and seen.   Go slowly and ask for help if you need; that's a fan to be very proud of.

Without going into detail, visiting with Paul and Geoff was a pleasant and an especially "jaw dropping" experience!!!

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Very Nice Fan, congrats!

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Mark Behrend wrote: Very Nice Fan, congrats!Thanks Mark!    Little did/do I know.   I'll bet you have found some good ones in the St Louis area!!!

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I agree with the rest - "that's a great find."  That should clean up very good.

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Cool beans Ron.  How many variations of the mechanical front oscillator did Peerless/Colonial have? :wondering:

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Russ Huber wrote: Cool beans Ron.  How many variations of the mechanical front oscillator did Peerless/Colonial have? :wondering:
Thanks Russ.   I hope that question is not directed toward me.   I didn't know a front oscillator existed till I bought this one.  

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I have no clue how many different ones exist but I will say you should be very proud of that fan Ron. It is NICE!!

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Don Tener wrote: I have no clue how many different ones exist but I will say you should be very proud of that fan Ron. It is NICE!!
Thanks Don.   You guys have inspired me to take it out of storage and make it presentable and functional.

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Ron Wallace wrote: Don Tener wrote: I have no clue how many different ones exist but I will say you should be very proud of that fan Ron. It is NICE!!
Thanks Don.   You guys have inspired me to take it out of storage and make it presentable and functional.
If I had that fan there is no way it would be in storage. As for the shoulder bolt for the oscillator, You might try talking to Darryl Hudson. He should be able to make one but the only problem is he needs to know what exactly to make. Something tells me there are not many out there if any at all.

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Don Tener wrote: Ron Wallace wrote: Don Tener wrote: I have no clue how many different ones exist but I will say you should be very proud of that fan Ron. It is NICE!!
Thanks Don.   You guys have inspired me to take it out of storage and make it presentable and functional.
If I had that fan there is no way it would be in storage. As for the shoulder bolt for the oscillator, You might try talking to Darryl Hudson. He should be able to make one but the only problem is he needs to know what exactly to make. Something tells me there are not many out there if any at all.
I'm glad that I inquired about it.   I see so many really nice fans posted here that I hesitate to post mine.   Until I failed to find another like it, I just assumed it was run of the mill.

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I am one of many that are thankful that you chose to post.  And you most certainly have chosen the right guy when you are going to work with Paul Graves!

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Ron Wallace wrote: I see so many really nice fans posted here that I hesitate to post mine. Don, I am glad you posted your Peerless and it's one of the really nice fans I see posted here on the forum.   Nice to me are all or near all original and unrestored fans.   That's all I buy and own and would not trade any for a restored example.

This is a 1903 DC Peerless I got a year ago after chasing it for about 5 years.   I won't even clean this one that still has the same "patina" that it had many years ago when the previous owner's Dad picked it up off the curb for free.   Needless to say I paid more than free.  Remarkably the only thing wrong with the fan are that the two slower speeds don't work.  Somehow it made it to 2017 with nothing bent, broken, missing, modified, etc.  I would prefer less patina but the fan will remain as it is so I don't regret trying to make it shiny.   The fan is 220 volts but it seems to run ok with my Variac putting out about 130v DC.




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Wow Ron that is an awesome fan! I would like to see more pictures once you clean it up a bit, but not too much ;). Maybe also a video of it running and the oscillating mechanism, that would be great. And Steve I really like that one you have posted there! 

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  There's a picture in Kurt's,book of a peerless lever oscillator  mounted on a wall but that is the first time I have ever seen one outside of that book :shock: , Congrats on a great  score. :up: That's a signature fan for your collection. :dude: 

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Holly cow Ron , I've been looking for someone to turn up that fan since 1992 . I pointed out to several collectors that in Kurt House's book there was this unusual front lever oscillator made by Peerless . The big dogs in the club responded by saying that maybe it was a prototype or artist rendering of a fan that might not exist . Your find has answered that . WAY TO GO , I'd like to rub on it .Paul 

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One more thing ,Its the only Peerless Osc with pizza blades

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Ron Wallace wrote: Mark Behrend wrote: Very Nice Fan, congrats!Thanks Mark!    Little did/do I know.   I'll bet you have found some good ones in the St Louis area!!!I have found a few real nice ones.  I wish I had been interested in them for thirty years instead of the past ten.  They are still out there but it seems like most good ones are in the hands of collectors.

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Thanks Steve!   Love the look of your fans!Ron Wallace wrote: I see so many really nice fans posted here that I hesitate to post mine. Don, I am glad you posted your Peerless and it's one of the really nice fans I see posted here on the forum.   Nice to me are all or near all original and unrestored fans.   That's all I buy and own and would not trade any for a restored example.



This is a 1903 DC Peerless I got a year ago after chasing it for about 5 years.   I won't even clean this one that still has the same "patina" that it had many years ago when the previous owner's Dad picked it up off the curb for free.   Needless to say I paid more than free.  Remarkably the only thing wrong with the fan are that the two slower speeds don't work.  Somehow it made it to 2017 with nothing bent, broken, missing, modified, etc.  I would prefer less patina but the fan will remain as it is so I don't regret trying to make it shiny.   The fan is 220 volts but it seems to run ok with my Variac putting out about 130v DC.










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Mike Eckenroad wrote: Wow Ron that is an awesome fan! I would like to see more pictures once you clean it up a bit, but not too much ;). Maybe also a video of it running and the oscillating mechanism, that would be great. And Steve I really like that one you have posted there! Thanks Mike.   I'll let Paul Graves give it life and post some pictures.

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Ron,  is the style "ODD"?

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Geoff Dunaway wrote:   There's a picture in Kurt's,book of a peerless lever oscillator  mounted on a wall but that is the first time I have ever seen one outside of that book :shock: , Congrats on a great  score. :up: That's a signature fan for your collection. :dude: 
Thanks Geoff.  Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.:shock:

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Paul D Graves wrote: Holly cow Ron , I've been looking for someone to turn up that fan since 1992 . I pointed out to several collectors that in Kurt House's book there was this unusual front lever oscillator made by Peerless . The big dogs in the club responded by saying that maybe it was a prototype or artist rendering of a fan that might not exist . Your find has answered that . WAY TO GO , I'd like to rub on it .Paul 


Thanks Paul.  I'll be bringing it down to you from KC when I pick up the project that I dropped on you the other day. :D

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If electrical trade is on target your fan dates ONLY the 10 fan motor season.  There is NO mention of a MECHANICAL Peerless/Colonial oscillator on the market in 09, only mention of a the VANE oscillator that was introduced to the market starting 05.

11 electrical trade shows Colonial sporting a front oscillator wheel with link with round tip wings on the oscillating model.

It appears you have 3 settings for oscillator sweep and you appear to simply be missing a knurled screw with correct threading.  

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Russ Huber wrote: If electrical trade is on target your fan dates ONLY the 10 fan motor season. 
Russ, I was wondering if this 1910 model oscillator was made only in a DC version or was an AC made also?   There is a good chance something in the design was either inefficient, jerky, cost too much to make, or was not reliable that caused Peerless to introduce a new mechanism for 1911.   So was an AC version made in 1910?

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Russ Huber wrote: 1910.


Wow!  That's it!!

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