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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 03:07 pm
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Dimaratos Tchacos
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Good day All,
I happen to have a small collection of wooden balded ceilings fans that my dad had collected and we are looking to use them at home but missing the regulator switch that goes with it and as far as i know these regulators are 1500 Watts each if i am not mistaken, we had the motors rewound to 220 volts as they are american standard 110 volts which costed a fortune nowadays, so if any could guide me as to what the history is behind these fans and what switches / regulators go with them and where i can get my hands on any ?? would be greatly appreciated as i can not seem to find much information on these fans but maybe the fact that the diehl engineer was manufacturing the motors for THE SINGER company in New jersey as per the manufacturing label on the motor as per pictures attached.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 03:13 pm
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Not sure how to add extra pictures on the same discussion ?

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 03:13 pm
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Ok it seems to have worked :)

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 03:15 pm
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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 03:19 pm
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Not even sure if it a post or a prewar machine ? any suggestions

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 Posted: Thu Jul 27th, 2017 09:28 pm
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Those are Diehl ceiling fans & appear to be late 20s or 30s models since they have the newer style blade holders. Diehl & Singer Sewing Machine were together for many years until Singer bought them out. If memory serves me right, Diehl was finally sold off to Ryobi. As far as speed regulation, since they are wired for 220 volts, the spped controllers will be different than controllers here in the US.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 28th, 2017 11:25 pm
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Those fans would of had what was called a snap-switch in it to control the speed of the fan, they are usually 3 speed fans that ran, fast, faster, and blow your hat off! Originally that fan was wound for 40 cycle 110 volt AC current (which was mostly a rural Midwest standard from what I understand) which seeing as you have since wound it to run on 50hz 220 Volts AC, the speed control choke will also need to be rewound and you'll need to find a Snap-Switch that is meant to run on 220V AC because most of the ones you'll find here in the U.S. were made for 110V AC. A picture of the kind of switch this fan would of used originally to control the speed is posted below.
 

I hope this helps!

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Hi Levi, thanks for the info much appreciate it :) at least it gives me a hint on what the original switch looked like, do you have any more detailed picture on that switch, number, model or any info ? what about the wattage of the original 110 V switch as i would need to calculate the wattage on the 220 v system and when i did a Amp clamp meter testing on the electrical cable of the fan whilst connected to the mains and working i got a 1.5 Amp reading can that be ??? it seems a bit low ?? maybe because the 110 v system uses more amps than the 220 v system and calculating that Watt = Amp x Volts but then again i found out that the resistance and many other factor play a role. the reason for my asking is in case i do not get my hands on such an switch i will have to either custom make one or buy one of those new Schneider or whatever other electrical company compatible with the fan. Could i use any other type of switch from another manufacturer like the ones they have on ebay from india ? your thoughts. Thanks

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 Posted: Sat Jul 29th, 2017 04:53 pm
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Most  certainly  another  maker's  switch  will  work  on  these  fans  just  fine, that's  just  an  example  photo  I  pulled  from  the  internet  of  what  the  original  switch  would  of  looked  like, Leviton, Hubbel, Pass  and  Seymour  and  other  companies  made  these  switches  years  ago. Actually  there  should  be 220 volt  versions  of  these  switches  out  there  because  believe  it  or  not  before  electricity  became  standardized  in  America  there  were  actually  parts  of  America  that  used  the 220 volt  system  before  we  standardized  it  to 110 volts. So  just  keep  an  eye  out  on  eBay  and  should  find  something  I  would  think. Also  European  Ceiling  Fan  Manufacturers  used  switches  like  those  on  their  fans  as  well, so  also  Check  Around  the  European eBay  listings. Also  you  wouldn't  of  had  to  of  rewound  those  ceiling  fans  to  of  ran  them  in  your  country, you  could  of  wired  them  to  a  step-down  transformer  and  they  would  of  worked  fine  on  your  system.

hope  this  helps,

Levi

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