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 Posted: Thu Sep 21st, 2017 01:16 am
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Tim Sweeney
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Hi - first time posting to the forum, and am pretty new to vintage fans (the fans of my youth, when they were just plain fans. Guess that makes me vintage too?). I've picked up a few over the last year or so, several of which need rewiring, so I have some projects ahead of me.

First up is a Westinghouse Lively Air 10 inch single speed oscillating fan recently acquired. The fan runs well, but there is a sort of buzzing/grinding noise that comes from the oscillating unit at the back (sorry I don't know all the part names). If I remove the lower arm from the shaft coming out of the housing, the noise still occurs. If I touch the rotating shaft, the noise is dampened. There is some grease on all the parts, but it's mixed with dust/dirt, and the whole thing could use a cleaning. 

Is the noise likely indicative of a need for lubrication, and if so, is it possible to lubricate the oscillator section without removing the housing? I think I see the oil port under some dust bunnies between the slots on the top of the housing, so can get a oil in there. But what about the gears in the back? I read a post in another thread that warns to avoid disassembling this fan if you can, as it's a bit tricky to get back together correctly, apparently, so I'm a bit wary.

Thanks all!

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 Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2017 01:13 am
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Levi Mevis
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Short answer yes, long answer You need to lubricate this fan no matter what.
I personally don't have any experience with taking apart a LivelyAire (i'm more experienced with the LivelyAire's big brother the PowerAire) but you will need to take this fan apart to lubricate the oscillator mechanism, and probably also the bearings. The only type of oil you should use in the bearings (the small oil ports you saw on the top of the fan) is 3-in-1 oil in the blue can (its formulated specifically for small electric motors like in these old fans) or Zoom! Spout Turbine Oil both of which you can get at your local Ace Hardware or TrueValue Hardware. As for the Oscillator mechanism you should use either wheel bearing grease or Lucas Red n' Tacky. 

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 Posted: Sat Sep 23rd, 2017 11:27 am
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Thanks, Levi. There's a thread that shows some images of the breakdown of a Lively Aire, so I'll just have to dig in and go carefully I guess. I'd kinda hoped it would be possible to just inject a little grease through the slots over the oscillator gears with a syringe without pulling it apart, as it doesn't need rewiring or anything.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2017 03:27 am
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Unfortunately there's a cover over the gears...no way to get to them without splitting the halves

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 Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2017 05:40 pm
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Jeff Jones wrote: Unfortunately there's a cover over the gears...no way to get to them without splitting the halves
Okay, that makes sense. Help keep the dust out. Thanks!

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 Posted: Sun Sep 24th, 2017 08:49 pm
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And the grease in.  I could imagine it seeping out and getting messy over time not to mention letting the gears dry out if they weren't somewhat sealed

Tim Sweeney wrote: Jeff Jones wrote: Unfortunately there's a cover over the gears...no way to get to them without splitting the halves
Okay, that makes sense. Help keep the dust out. Thanks!


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 Posted: Tue Sep 26th, 2017 08:49 pm
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Tom Zapf
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send a private message to mike heffernan, he can help you with this...... tom 

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