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 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 09:49 pm
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Vince Hartness
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I have looked and looked but I can't find anything about tightening up the neck on this thing.  Somebody throw me a bone please.

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Vince

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 04:50 am
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Darrell Koller
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Vince Hartness wrote: I have looked and looked but I can't find anything about tightening up the neck on this thing.  Somebody throw me a bone please.

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Vince

Hey Vince,

I've actually worked on quite a few of the old stamped steel Westy's.  I really like these old fans.  In fact, I've restored a 164848I which I believe is identical to your 164848G, for all intents and purposes.

These old oscillating fans have a gearbox that attaches to the back of the motor housing and wraps underneath where it also attaches to the motor housing.  This gearbox also serves to support a steel shaft that extends downward directly under the motor housing into the neck.  The shaft facilitates the pivoting motion of the fan.

This combination gearbox/neck pivot is a weak spot on these otherwise durable fans.  The problem is that it's cast from pot metal.  Pot metal is generally composed of manufacturing scraps of various types of metal melted together.  Its impurities make it weak and often brittle. Frequently the pot metal fails where the pivot shaft is attached to the housing, resulting in neck wobble.  I can't say for sure without examining your fan if this is your issue, but it is fairly common.

I've fixed a few of these fans with this problem using JB Weld.  Others I've fixed by salvaging good gearboxes from fans with even bigger issues.  Since this is a common issue it can be difficult to find good parts.  The fix generally depends on the severity of the issue.

Another common problem is simply wear.  The shaft can become loose in the neck from wear, but if the wobble is severe enough to complain about, I suspect your issue is with the pot metal gearbox.

If you are willing to get your hands dirty you can dig into it and try and diagnose the problem yourself.  Depending on where you live you may have a club member nearby who would be willing to assist.  You could also send it to me or another member to take a look at, but shipping these heavy old fans gets to be expensive.

Here's a picture of one of these that I restored.




I hope this helps.

---Darrell

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 02:33 pm
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Vince Hartness
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Hey Darrell.  The fan runs fine so I don't think I'm going to mess with it.  I thought it maybe as simple as just tightening it up but it looks like I would have to disassemble the motor just to get to it.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 06:18 pm
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Darryl, I love your Westy restoration.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 07:27 pm
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Darrell Koller
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Thanks Steve!  I know, it's a little shiny  :D 

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