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 Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2018 02:49 pm
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Nick Crowley
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Looking for information on Westinghouse DC Style 516851A.  I am considering to purchase it and would like to know what an average price would be.  Also the year made.  The blades are not metal but say wood on the tag.  Did they make a wood blade or some other material like resin.  Any information is appreciated.







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 Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2018 03:51 pm
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Greg Rodocker
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I am NOT a Westinghouse expert- but based on the pictures - the blades appear either be brass that has not been cleaned in a long time or painted steel. Use a magnet on the blades to see if steel. I believe they made a Micarta Blade - a type of plastic and these are black. Have you looked in galleries:

http://www.fancollectors.org/West/west.htm


See post #14 from Mr. Russ Huber on the Westinghouse Survey to look up the numbers:

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=33795&forum_id=1&highlight=westinghouse+survey


As far as a 'fair price/value'- that is always dependent on how bad you want it, your willingness to pay and the desire of the seller to sell at a negotiated price. Someone is always going to tell you- "you overpaid" or "I found for less...".


Good Luck

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 01:18 am
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Levi Mevis
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that fan has either brass blades or Micarta (which is a type of Bakelite) of course in order for the blades to be Micarta the fan would have to date to the mid 1920s which was when the Micarta Blades first came out, prior to the they used either brass blades or painted steel blades. If I'm not mistaken that style of fan dates to the 1910s so it would be more likely that the blades are brass (plus they just look like brass blades by the way they have such a tarnished appearance.)

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 01:36 am
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Jamie Williams
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I have the AC version of that fan or one almost like it, a 516860-A, sitting in the floor of my garage right now. Mine has the Micarta blades. There will always be market for DC fans, so it's not an apples to apples comparison. I value the one I have at $0 other than having a parts fan to help other members in need. That's not to say the DC fan is worthless, it's certainly not. But if you want the Micarta blade that I believe would be correct on that fan it's yours for the cost of shipping.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 01:45 am
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Your fan was made later 1926 to c.1928.  See the tiny "micro date" inside parenthesis in the top left corner of the data plate?   That is when Westinghouse ordered a batch of new plates which they seem to have done ever few years or so.  Your blades are "Micarta" (google search for more into).  The Micarta blades came out on the 16" Westys first a year or two before the 12" models.  Maybe 1922 for the 16" Micarta blades?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 02:54 pm
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Nick Crowley
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Thanks for all of the good info. I was just trying to research a bit before I bought it. I am trying to decide if it is worth the $200 asking price. Interested because it is DC just not so excited about blade material but could be a good add to my small collection.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 04:35 pm
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Steve Stephens
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My thoughts on price would be maybe $75 max.  One major issue with stamped steel Westys is that they are hard to work on for most people and have pot metal which does not help the situation.  The condition looks pretty so-so also as well as it being a non-brass blade fan.  Westys were very good fans and, if you find a pristine example with a good headwire and all working, they are nice to have.   I'd save up more money and put it towards a better and older DC fan.   Do you even know if that fan runs?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 06:28 pm
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Nick Crowley
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Steve,
Thanks for the insight.  I was already think maybe to wait.  I was not able to see if it even worked.  I have also experienced the issue with pot metal on a GE AOU which I am currently trying to find a gear box for.

Kind of new to the collecting, however learning more with each fan and the wealth of knowledge on this forum.  

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 Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2018 09:14 pm
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Steve Stephens
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Being patient some will help in the long run Nick.   I've pretty much stuck to collecting the major brands of good fans but, over the years sold off lesser examples.   I find that what I have left are almost all of cast iron construction and prior to 1930 with most before 1920.  The old cast iron models of Westinghouse, R&M, GE and Emerson are great fans and probably easier to work on then stamped steel models.   I like machine screws that go into solid cast iron instead of sheet metal screws that go into sheet metal.   I have seen a few fine collections of later art deco fans however so, whatever is your interest, head that way.   Buy the best you can afford unless you are one who really enjoys a challenge in restoring a fan in poor condition missing parts, etc.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2018 11:27 pm
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Not a bad fan, but not as collectible as the older brass bladed fans.  I picked up this 6 blade DC, a 164858B at auction for less than $200 a few years ago.  It cleaned up nice and is my bedroom fan.  $200 is not a bad retail price (sellers have margins to make).  I would pass, but if you like it ...









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