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 Posted: Thu Mar 22nd, 2018 10:48 pm
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C. A. Ross
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Hello everyone.
Sorry for the misspelling in the subject... I could not find how to fix that :-(

I am new to the forum and to fan collecting... in fact, I just purchased my first fan this very afternoon and would appreciate some help with It’s proper identification. I believe it to be a Westinghouse Lively Aire, but would like specific model and year if possible.

I have read and researched a bit, but therefor got somewhat confused with all the different versions made LOL
It seems the metal blades should indicate an older version (50’s), while the switch and cord on top/next to the motor, should indicate a newer version (60’s), it has a hole on the right side of the base which I have not seen on similar models I have found, while also the “Westinghouse” badge/plate in front seems different than the ones I have found (it covers the whole front, is black with silver letters and has no model #), the closest one I have seen was in the gallery here, on the 10” AB/SC LivelyAire Model 10LA serial AT 1950 of Mike Heffernan (although that seems to be a burgundy background plate).
It is in working condition although it seems to overheat and barely oscillate. Apparently it has just one speed.

So, I look forward to absolutely any information at all or help identifying the exact year and model # of my new fan. Also, if you may give me your opinion/estimate as to how much it is worth, that would be greatly appreciated since I am curious as to wether I got a fair deal, a steal or got taken for a fool? Hahahahahahaha

Thank you very much in advance for your time and help with this matter.

Here are some photos from all angles (I apologise that they are on their side, since I am new here I could not find how to fix that either, they were right side up on my gallery :wondering:) :

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Right side



Left side


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Bottom



Last edited on Thu Mar 22nd, 2018 11:08 pm by C. A. Ross

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2018 03:52 pm
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Tom Zapf
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jeff rusnak and mike heffernan are the 2 guys to ID the year. This IS a Lively-Aire, early pre 1954 with the aluminum blade. NOW the colors changed, there was this blue, the ivory, hunter green and i cant remember which came first . these are late 40s- early 50s ....tom 

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 Posted: Fri Mar 23rd, 2018 04:40 pm
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C. A. Ross
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Thank you very much for your feedback Tom. I am guessing from what I have been able to find, it is an early 50’s fan as you said, but certain things like the cord and switch up top, the “Westinghouse” logo/plate on the front and the hole on the side of the base have confused me. I have also considered the possibility that someone put it together from parts from different model years, but the colour is pretty consistent throughout.
How would I get about contacting the two guys you mentioned, to have them look at this post and weigh in on the matter? I would feel kind of weird/strange just pm-ing them out of the blue without ever having talked to them before :-/
Any chance you could mention the post to them?

Thanks again for the help :up:

Last edited on Fri Mar 23rd, 2018 04:41 pm by C. A. Ross

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 Posted: Sat Mar 24th, 2018 10:34 pm
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Hello C A,Welcome to the world of fan collecting.I think I can just help you out with your questions.Yes you do have a Westinghouse Livelyaire 10" fan.Made in the mid to late 40's from 1946 to 1949 Westinghouse made the fan you have in the blue/grey color and in a beige/Ivory colors.The first color green was 1945.after 1949 Westinghouse went to a mauve color that went thru the early 1960's The aluminum blades were stopped in1954 when the Hemcolite plastic blades were introduced.Your fan information is stamped into the oscillating link,just turn the fan upside down.The hole in the base is for a straint relief,the wire was feed thru that hole and an H straint relief kept the wire from coming out.These fans are single speed and run quite fast,the oscillating arc is adjusted with the thumb screw on the oscillating wheel.Without taking the motor apart (which for first timers is a bear to get apart and reassemble) but with practice come a little easier each time you take one apart and put it back together.Though the oscillating gears really do need grease so the fans motor halves will need to be taken apart.plus you can get at the bearings which are bronze floating balls with a small spring wick under each bearing and a shallow well to hold enough oil for one season of operation.If you look closely at the center ribs on the motor cover you WILL see an oil hole above the front and rear where a few drops of oil can be applied to get oil to the bearings without the need to take the motor apart.Usually the oscillator grease is good for years of use.As for what oil to use ? Any good 20 or 30 weight NON DETERGENT oil,Not multi weight auto oil.Zoom oil is good also.Use a good auto wheel bearing grease for the oscillator gears.I like Valvoline # 609 for non disc brakes.As for value ? Usually what someone wants to pay.Fair prices are about $10.00 to about $ 50.00 I've seen outrageous prices for restored versions in the hundreds,but who pays those prices ? My opinion of these fans is that they are well made under appreciated fans !! Take one apart and see that they were meant to run for years un serviced.Most of the blue/grey and beige/Ivory Livelyaires had paint that did not hold up over time,so most get repainted !! Hope I've helped clear up some Q's for you...Jeff..:cool:

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 Posted: Tue Apr 17th, 2018 03:29 am
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Does anyone know of a close off the shelf match for this blue? I've got a 12 inch that the paint is shot on that I'd like to repaint original color or as close to original as possible.

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