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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 06:04 pm
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Roger Phillips Sr.
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Ladies and Gentleman I'm new to this forum . I have 3 Emerson fans I believe are Pre 1950's. 
(1)  A30452 12 in. Brass bladed fan. It runs well on all three speeds and oscillates as well. I use this on a regular basis as my go to fan. It was my father-in-laws fathers fan. My father-in-law offered it to me before he was going to throw it away. He said he didn't know whether it worked or not so he just wanted to get rid of it. I'm just glad he offered it to me first. 

(2)  79648 16 in. Steel bladed fan. It runs well and oscillates as well but has no switch. Who ever owned it prior to me removed the switch, They put a orange extension cord on it and hooked it to the high speed wire and the neutral. The other speed wires are cut off short inside the fan and just hanging loosely inside. He put no tape or anything else on the wires to prevent shorting. Guy must have been a moron.

(3)  77649-80 16 In. Steel blade fan. It's in pretty rough condition. I don't know whether it runs or not. The wiring is shot and frayed badly with bare spots. So I'm going to have to rewire the cord and fan to switch wires. Then I'll be able to test it. 

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On fan one, How can I remove the blade? I'd like to remove it and polish it. None of these fans are in good enough condition to have them stay untouched. I simply would like to make them all functional. My wife thinks I'm crazy for wanting to use these possibly 100 year old fans. Myself I believe older is better. I'm on disability so I don't have a lot of spare cash. Would anyone know where I might find a used switch I could put on fan #2 at a very reasonable cost. Everything I've seen online and on Ebay are too rich for my wallet. I'd also like the same for the wire and plug for fan #3. I know I'm asking a lot for never having been on this site before but honestly I didn't know where else to turn. I would upload pictures but I have absolutely no Idea how to do that. Thanks in advance for any help you might be willing to offer me.

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 07:35 pm
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Richard Daugird
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I think some Emerson blades screw on? As far as a cord and plug, the nice twisted cloth covered cord complete with plug is about $12 on eBay.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Cordset-8ft-Cloth-Covered-Twisted-Wire-Vintage-Rewire-Kit-Antique-Fan/202312097941?hash=item2f1abda095:g:S3QAAOxyY3ZRyy6k

Many color combos at 
https://www.grandbrass.com/category/wire-powercords_with_molded_plugs-twisted_power_cords/wire-powercords_with_molded_plugs/

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 07:57 pm
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Roger, what is the TYPE NO. of the first fan you posted?   Photos of your fans will probably help too.

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2018 09:03 pm
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Be sure to include a clear picture of the tag for each fan.

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 Posted: Tue May 15th, 2018 05:19 am
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I think you may have a few of those numbers wrong, might want to check that. That 77xxx you mentioned which I believe you mean 77648 (and then maybe 2 letters here) should have overlapping aluminum blades. Most but not all emerson blades screw on reverse thread. You will need to lock the rotor first which you can use the search function on the site to see how to do that. You basically just remove 2 of the oscillator bolts and put in longer ones to lock it  but read up on it first. I will have to look but I may be able to help you with that switch for your 79xxx, I will have to check my parts first to make sure I didn't already use it. As long as you get your wiring sorted out those old fans will outlast anything you can buy today 10x over and I would bet the farm on that. 

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 05:08 am
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I will check the numbers on the fans again and post them. I would upload photos if I weren't a 65 year old computer illiterate. I can send a photo by text from my phone. But, I have absolutely no idea how to upload one to a computer or web site. I do appreciate every ones help. I'll try to check those numbers tomorrow and put them up.

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 09:44 pm
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I went thru all the numbers again for my three fans.

(1) Fan one, the number is 30542 and the type is 27666. This is the one that runs well and I use regularly.

(2) Fan two, the number is 79648 AO or AQ this fan is the one that runs well on high speed and oscillates. But, the guy took out the switch and cut the other wires short.

(3) Fan three, the number is 77648 BO or BQ. This is the one hat has to be rewired. I have no idea of the functionality of it.

I hope this helps with the fans identifications. I'll talk to my son to see if he can show me how to upload pictures. He does computer programming for a living. Unfortunately, that will be a while. Thanks again for the help.

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 Posted: Thu May 17th, 2018 10:10 pm
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Hi Roger and welcome. 
All 3 fans are quite good fans WHEN properly restored. Often crumbling wiring/ bad repairs through the years can make these old fans unsafe to use as-is. So what I'm saying, is that all 3 should be checked out by someone who knows antique fans! Not just the local electrician. . Also, if not maintained/restored mechanically, it can cause undue wear and operating issues.  Properly maintained, all 3 fans are good for another 100 years. 


I realize that your funds are limited, but we're a good group of folks here, and there's probably someone local to you willing to help out either for free, or for the cost of parts. Yes there are also high dollar restores out there. I'm guessing you're not looking for a show car restoration, but rather just getting them ready for safe reliable operation. 
There's probably someone willing to help


Where, approximately are you located? City, state? 


All of those blades can be a challenge to remove for a novice. They are threaded on, and to remove them, you must partially disassemble the fan, lock the stator, and then twist the blade in the direction that it turns. BUT, hardened oil residue and other things make them very difficult to remove if not removed for many years. This often leads to damaged blades if you've not done it before. My suggestion is to have a fan restorer remove it. You'll also need a replacement leather washer if you remove it. 


Reach out, someone here will help you to get your fans going, and yes, when you have a chance, pics will help you get the parts you need. 





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 Posted: Fri May 18th, 2018 04:34 pm
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i live in a farming community, the town i live in is Cedar Hill, Missouri. Its about 25-30 miles southwest of St. Louis, Mo.. if there were someone in my area that might be able to help me I'd appreciate finding some way in which to conect with them. If you'd have any idea how I might do this please let me know.

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i live in a farming community, the town i live in is Cedar Hill, Missouri. Its about 25-30 miles southwest of St. Louis, Mo.. if there were someone in my area that might be able to help me I'd appreciate finding some way in which to conect with them. If you'd have any idea how I might do this please let me know.

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i live in a farming community, the town i live in is Cedar Hill, Missouri. Its about 25-30 miles southwest of St. Louis, Mo.. if there were someone in my area that might be able to help me I'd appreciate finding some way in which to conect with them. If you'd have any idea how I might do this please let me know.

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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2018 09:18 pm
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Hi Roger, I'm in Wildwood not to far from you. I could probably help you out on all three of your requests. The problem for me is finding some time. Maybe one of these upcoming weekends you could come by.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2018 06:12 pm
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i apologize for not getting back on sooner. I had to have some surgery done. I've had skin cancer 8 times now 7 have been Basel cell but this one was Melanoma. It was on the side of my head between my left ear and eye. Still recovering but everything seems to be going well. I appreciate the offer to meet sometime. I would be more then willing to do so at your convenience if I don't have something going on. I'm home most of the time except on Wednesday. So if you have some free time I'd appreciate meeting up with you. Thanks so much for the offer.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2018 12:06 am
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Roger Phillips Sr. wrote: i apologize for not getting back on sooner. I had to have some surgery done. I've had skin cancer 8 times now 7 have been Basel cell but this one was Melanoma. It was on the side of my head between my left ear and eye. Still recovering but everything seems to be going well. I appreciate the offer to meet sometime. I would be more then willing to do so at your convenience if I don't have something going on. I'm home most of the time except on Wednesday. So if you have some free time I'd appreciate meeting up with you. Thanks so much for the offer.Sounds good, I will pm you when I can pick a date. Mark

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Thanks again, appreciate it, when ever you have time.

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