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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 12:43 am
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Alec Burns
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If there ever was a white whale... this is the whitest.

I got this 1906 104v smooth-yoke Westinghouse from a guy about 45 miles south of my town a little over 15 months ago. The yoke was broke (haha, that rhymed), the switch was in about five pieces and about $200 worth of parts were long gone. I didn't care about the problems though, because this was my first pre-1910 motor, and I was determined to make it right. This fan gave me just about every issue it could muster to give. The original stator was doomed to fail because of bad design and extraordinarily brittle windings, the parts were hard to find, and I loved/hated every minute of it.

However, nothing I know beats the feeling of hearing the soothing sound of centrifugal contacts clicking before the soft sound of cool air after over a year of turmoil and heartache. Besides the later style acorn nuts and stator, I tried to restore the fan as close to original as possible. I was originally going to keep the patina, but after I had to mix the newer style nuts with the fan, I decided to go all out.

The only things left to do is align a tweak in one blade and Nikolas clear the cage and blade.

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Sadly, this fan is simply sensitive to any alignments of the rear bell. The speed coil laminates also vibrate for the first few minutes of running on low, but it's quickly resolved by switching to high or waiting it out...

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I was lucky enough to find a near mint smooth-yoked tank with the same voltage and year from coincidentally the  same part of the state. The only deformities are a cage break and a missing strut clip that was quickly rectified with the supreme kindness of member Bill Arfman. I'm happy to report that the patina will stay :)

A special thanks to these members:
Bill Arfman
Steve Stephens
Chad Hunter
Mike Eckenroad
Russ Huber
and all others who gave me tips, tricks and valuable information!

My Pain and Joy:
http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/46566.html
http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/50905.html
http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/47970.html
(Word to the wise, these fans are called tanks for a reason, but please, for the love of god, choose another BB/BC fan as your first restoration.)

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 01:06 am
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Lucas Beshara
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Very nice work and persistence. That’s what it’s all about. Now you have a keeper for a lifetime. I have many!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 04:42 am
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Steve Stephens
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Good looking work Alec.   Also a lover of tanks here.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 11:32 am
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Definitely a keeper. Well done!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 12:35 pm
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Nice work and perseverence. Having one of those in a collection is lucky, but two is a gift. Congrats.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 03:38 pm
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Alec Burns wrote:
(Word to the wise, these fans are called tanks for a reason, but please, for the love of god, choose another BB/BC fan as your first restoration.)
Uh oh, I just started on mine last night...wish me luck!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 05:54 pm
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Alec Burns
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Richard Daugird wrote: Alec Burns wrote:
(Word to the wise, these fans are called tanks for a reason, but please, for the love of god, choose another BB/BC fan as your first restoration.)
Uh oh, I just started on mine last night...wish me luck!
Don’t worry. Just be patient, handle with care, and send me a message if you have any questions...

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I have semi-restored( disassembled, removed rust, and spraybombed) a few G.E. Pancakes that were in horrible condition, and put them back to use. These are not quite as simple, but I can handle it. I appreciate all you experienced guys who share your knowledge with us newbies.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 08:03 pm
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Alec Burns
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Richard Daugird wrote: I have semi-restored( disassembled, removed rust, and spraybombed) a few G.E. Pancakes that were in horrible condition, and put them back to use. These are not quite as simple, but I can handle it. I appreciate all you experienced guys who share your knowledge with us newbies.You really cannot value the knowledge of the forum. THe tanks are relatively strong rstraightforward, but if you have a 1905-6 tank, there’s women stuff watch out for. Good luck!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 08:11 pm
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Mine is a Western Electric Hawthorne #134031, any idea what year those were made?

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 Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2018 11:27 pm
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Alec Burns
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Thank you everyone for the positive comments. I always crave to accomplish and hopefully this fan will be appreciated long past my time. Sadly, I was hit with a rather large tuition bill last night, so I’m going to have to let this one go. I’d rather live on the streets if I didn’t have a second one. It’ll be up in the BST section later tonight if anyone is interested. Cheers! :’)

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 Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2018 01:16 am
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Alec,
Sorry you have to give up the 06 tank, but glad you've got another.  I've got one that's very nice now, but there must be something about shippers of 06 tanks.  Mine arrived about like yours only with a chunk taken out of the neck of the base and with the post part of the trunnion left in the neck and, well, just take a look below.





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 Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2018 01:55 am
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Jim Humphrey wrote: Alec,
Sorry you have to give up the 06 tank, but glad you've got another.  I've got one that's very nice now, but there must be something about shippers of 06 tanks.  Mine arrived about like yours only with a chunk taken out of the neck of the base and with the post part of the trunnion left in the neck and, well, just take a look below.






Woah that is rough. These smooth yokes are definitely a point of weakness for these fans. I plan on removing the cage/blade/struts from the rest, and wrapping both in enough packing material and security to rival Fort Knox. Do you have a photo of how yours is now?

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 Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2018 02:35 am
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Looks like I only took pics of the "before", but I'll get a pic of "after" tomorrow and post.  I think I only had to get a trunnion as far as parts are concerned.  Some welding by a guy I know.  I think the blades were out of track but just needed some spider bending to correct that.  Anyway, I'll post tomorrow.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2018 04:18 pm
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Here are a couple of pics of my 06 tank as it sits now.  It's original paint except where I had to repaint the area where the chunk of the base neck was broken out and rewelded.  I got the smooth yoke from Chad Baker I think, can't remember now, must be getting old.  I do remember I ended up getting the fan for the $50 shipping cost.











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