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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 05:10 am
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Richard Daugird
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I am taking my stator and switch to the armature shop tomorrow. The wiring is not all intact, and I'm not sure what to ask them to do. the switch was bypassed. Wondering what the proper wiring should be.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2018 05:47 am
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Is this of any help?  If you have a 3-speed tank (voltage 112-115) the wiring will be a bit different.









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Richard Daugird
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Thanks Steve. So if I have them attach some long leads they can be screwed to the switch later?  That way I can leave the stater and windings etc. unassembled So I can strip and paint the rest of the fan? I’m pretty sure I’m not using all the terms correctly. But I do have everything the whole fan disassemble. Speak text on my phone doesn’t work real great.

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Why don’t you send the stator and speed coil to Rick Huckabee to be rewound? I think you’ll have a higher degree of success than your local motor shop, unless they’ve done good work for you before, of course. 

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The local shop is good, they repaired a motor for the condenser on our 53' long commercial freezer; and while they were at it, put new leads on a pancake stator. He put a meter on the Tank stator and switch, said all seemed good, he is going to attatch a new long cord to my existing leads, they are O.K. inside the motor housing. He will do it so the splice is hidden. I believe I can handle attacthing to the switch with the help you guys have given.

He told me a couple funny stories about fans people had brought in; there was an Emerson 2650 on the bench when I was there...

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Looks like a wire is missing. I have new head wire not sure how to connect. Pics coming. Three speed switch. 


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Pictured is a two speed choke. The switch also has position 2 and 3 bridged.

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Looks like a wire is missing. I have new head wire not sure how to connect. Pics coming. Three speed switch. 



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Richard Daugird
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Do I hook the new stator leads(headwire) where the two arrows are, where it says "CONNECT HERE"?
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Richard Daugird wrote: Do I hook the new stator leads(headwire) where the two arrows are, where it says "CONNECT HERE"?




NO.  "Connect Here" is where the power cord is connected.   I do think, however, that one headwire may connect to one power terminal (on the left maybe where it looks like the remains of a wire are there) but I don't want to mislead you so please find someone who KNOWS for sure before you connect it up.


You say you have a three speed switch which would require a three speed choke coil.   In the photo, below, if that is your switch it is a TWO speed switch.   All tanks have the same basic switch and they were configured for one, two (by far the most common) or three speeds.  Three speed tanks are kind of rare.  Note in your photo the brass jumper that connects two terminals on the switch together making two switch positions the same speed.  A three speed switch would not have a jumper.  A one speed tank (1905 only I think, possibly 1906?) will have all of those terminals connected together as shown in the next photo down.




This is my one speed small motor tank from c.1905-06 and the only one I have seen.  All three switch terminals are jumpered together.   The copper or brass jumpers are sometimes on the top of the switch, sometimes on the bottom but there is always a jumper unless it is a 3-speed tank and a 3 speed tank will always have a voltage range of 112-115 volts on the motor tag for the usual 60 cycle tank.   As far as instructing you now to connect the headwires I am not knowledgeable on that as I have not ever done a headwire.  





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Richard Daugird
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Thanks Steve. So since there are three contacts, the lever touches two at a time for each speed?

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Here was the wiring diagram of my 60677 Tank.







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Richard Daugird
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Thanks, I think I understand now.

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Richard Daugird wrote: Thanks Steve. So since there are three contacts, the lever touches two at a time for each speed?I think the lever contacts only one of the three speed contacts at a time although I have not LOOKED to see how the contacts are made.   Since two contacts are usually connected together on the usual 2-speed tank, the fan will have one high speed and two low speeds but both at the same speed (or visa versa).

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Richard Daugird
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Thanks for all the help guys.

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