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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 01:35 am
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Aaron Hardy
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New forum member and first-time poster here, so please forgive any etiquette missteps! Also new to the world of vintage fans which I kinda stumbled into when I spotted my first find in a local antique shop. That first fan is what brings me here today. It's a Gilbert, and that's about all I know about it as it is missing any plates or other identifying marks. Here's the fan:

I know, I probably bit off more than I can chew. But it works, and I've done a lot of cosmetic work on it already. The issue I've run into is the oscillator. The gear in it appears to have some broken teeth. I'd like to look into maybe finding a replacement, but I don't know how to remove the gear. I believe the housing is s referred to as a "toilet bowl." Here are some images:



It looks worse in pictures than it is. I already sprayed some degreaser in there and cleaned it up. Anyway, I cannot figure out how to pull that gear out. I figure it is better to get some advice from pros before I go pulling and banging on it. Here are some close-ups of the gear, the shaft, and the attachment at the base of the shaft:



If the fan's oscillating days are over, so be it. It is also missing the switch so it won't be a 100% restoration anyway. It still has some great potential, though, and I'm enjoying cutting my teeth on it thus far.

Any and all thoughts/opinions are appreciated.

One last question. The emblem: does anyone have any advice on how to restore the black base and keep the chrome lettering? 

Thanks in advance!






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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 06:19 am
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Levi Mevis
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Hello, And Welcome to the incredibly addicting world of antique fans! Soon they'll multiply like mice in your place if you aren't careful! *Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge, Say no more!* 
Anyways Your Fan was made by a company called A. C. Gilbert Company which was around from the early 1900s until about the 1960s, of which your model seems to be a 1940s model if I'm not mistaken, one of the more well known fans manufactured by this company was a fan called the Polar Cub which was an AC/DC universal motor fan that was usually available only as a 6" model from what I've seen. 

Also you're fan's oscillator gearbox is just an ordinary gearbox the "toilet bowl" designation is for a specific model of Dayton fan from the 1920s that had an oscillator gearbox that was shaped like a "toilet bowl" when looked at from the side, this designation was obviously not a designation used by Dayton themselves but rather a later collector coined designation for the fan, which is the same for the term "Pancake" and "Tank" for fans.

Unfortunately your fan's oscillator gearbox may be SOL because unfortunately A. C. Gilbert made what are called "dimestore" fans meaning they were cheap fans that were usually not meant to be repaired once they broke, fortunately though even the "cheap" dimestore fans of yesteryear are actually of much better build quality than the cheap chinese POS fans made now a days, so if you find a good working "dimestore" fan that is in good cosmetic condition you easily have a fan that's worth twice as much as a modern Chinese made fan and better built as well.

Hope this helps.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 02:29 pm
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Thank you for the welcome and the info! I'm actually familiar with the Polar Cub from poking around on the internet, but I've had quite a hard time finding anything about this model. And thanks for the correction on the toilet bowl. I didn't realize that designation is reserved for a specific Dayton model. I can see similarities in the design shape though.
I can accept the fact the oscillator's days are over, but I'd still like to pull that gear out before I put the housing back together. So far, the fan appears it will be a worthwhile venture for a first project. There is an old Emerson at a store in town. It looks very similar to this Gilbert, but the base is missing about a 4" section beneath the switch. I've debated on what I might be able to do with it, but that missing chunk is heartbreaking.

I definitely understand the addiction. I also have a thing for typewriters. In fact, I was looking for a fan to go with this beauty:

It's a 1939 Royal KMM "Magic Margin" sitting on a 1941 typing desk I restored. The typewriter is an upcoming project as I have a 1949 Smith Corona Sterling 5A on the bench now. Along with the Gilbert and a Delco fan I picked up for my desk at work. There just is not enough time in the day!!



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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 04:09 pm
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Levi Mevis
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That'saa nice typewriter I too collect vintage typewriters and also old radios and record players.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 04:37 pm
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Thanks, Levi. I've looked at a couple radios myself.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 04:51 pm
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Yep, usually when it comes to radios to restore try to get a "cold Chassis" Set, in other words a radio with a power transformer that isolates the you from the power supply, most of the AA5 radios were "Hot Chassis" designs where one side of the power supply is in contact with the chassis at all times which if you don't repair it properly or is missing knobs can give you a serious shock.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 4th, 2018 05:10 pm
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Good to know!

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