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 Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 05:11 pm
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Allen Bennett
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I buy antique/vintage fans and bring them back to life soley for my enjoyment. I really don't know how to properly describe the finished product because I know a true restoration requires every aspect of the project being as close to original as possible.  I like to think of my fans as "refurbished".  Comments or suggestions?
 A typical Emerson project for me:

complete disassembly and cleaning
electrical checks
a new coat of insulating varnish on the stator and speed coil
new head wire and new lead wires soldered to speed control and capacitor
new AC line cord and plug
hub spiders dial indicated
blades tips (leading and trailing) dial indicated to balance as best I can (no strobe available)
painted parts stripped, sanded and repainted with rattle can enamel or epoxy
all exposed fasteners machine polished and coated with lacquer
new fiber shim washers for rotor, oscillation shaft and motor pivot
new felt on base

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 Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 05:47 pm
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Lane Shirey
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I would consider that restored.  "Restored" in the fan community isn't necessarily considered a bad thing.  There are no standards.  In your case, I'd list "new paint" so someone doesn't think they're getting perfect original paint.  Sometimes from pictures it's hard to tell.  I find it best just to be upfront and list what was done if you're selling a fan.

To me a "restored" fan has a proper, correctly done mechanical and electrical refresh for safe, reliable operation and is ready to use..It has either new paint, or the original paint has been cleaned, preserved, waxed (per preference). The fan is basically ready to use and looks as nice as possible.  . The brass has been cleaned and waxed to preserve original patina or polished to the owner's preference. 

Some prefer to call an original paint fan made to the above standards a "preserved" fan.    

A restored fan is not a fan that has the original frayed headwire, a bad cord, is filthy and greasy and has had a 5 minute spray bomb job over all the dirt and grime like are commonly found on ebay. 

Having said that, there are many collectors that prefer their fans unrestored and in some cases, untouched and uncleaned, but these are never represented as restored fans.

To each their own I suppose. 

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Thanks!  I kinda like "preserved".

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I got into this discussion in the old bike business a number of years ago.
Restored can be a legal term should you end in up court, that means, "As good or better than new".

So, if you claimed your work was at that level and it wasn't you might be liable in court.

You may be able to use the word "Restoration" in a manner not quite so specific.

Ie. "the fan underwent a restoration" might not mean it was completely restored.

Listing the individual steps in the process tends to get around this, especially if you don't claim it has been restored.

This was in litigation giddy California.....things might be different where you are.

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Bill

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Allen Bennett wrote:
all exposed fasteners machine polished and coated with lacquer
 Look into the probability that steel fasteners were blued when new, not polished steel.   I think you may be thinking of brass fasteners however.   Many makers did not polish some or even all of the brass, it was "dipped and lacquered" or a combination of that and polished.  Looking at old catalogs will usually tell you the finish used.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 07:59 pm
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Attached Image (viewed 301 times):

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 Posted: Wed Aug 8th, 2018 08:04 pm
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Allen Bennett
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As you stated, the steel fasteners were probably blued. I discovered a post somewhere else where a restoration involved bluing the steel fasteners.   As for me, I polish everything.  I guess I'm like a circus chimp and love the shiny objects.

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Allen Bennett
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That's perfect.  Gonna keep the screenshot.

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Jim Kovar
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Can also be used as a verb!  :P




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....and keep in mind that this the Antique Fan Collectors' Association, not the Restorers' association.  I also vote for 'preserved'!  :cool:  My $.02

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Allen Bennett
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I prefer the verb!  My father-in-law (gone now) was a crew chief on a B-47 Stratojet back in the 50's, and he frequently used FUBAR when he was looking over old hit-n-miss engines at Old Engine/Tractor shows

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William Dunlap
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FUBAR is actually an acronym not suitable for more detailed description on a family site.

As is SNAFU. As stated above, these were likely coined during WWII or even before by the military.

Cheers,
Bill
As for the definition of AFCA, I would agree, especially that it doesn't mean Antique Fan Seller's Association.

It appears to me that it is much easier to sell a fan that it is to buy one. That's probably a good thing.

B.

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I would also include "Unrestored" to the list. Taking a previously restored fan and undoing the work done  on it, to put it back in a condition to appear as well worn and used.

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George Durbin
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We need this category added so clarification can be easily identified...The category would be...


"WTH! Happened to that!"


Geo...

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Will Guidry
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:cool:

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I would add Resurrected!  I'm not Jesus, but there are many talented members who have the capability of a resurrection!  Cudos to those so blessed and many thanks for all your help!

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Kim Frank wrote: I would also include "Unrestored" to the list. Taking a previously restored fan and undoing the work done  on it, to put it back in a condition to appear as well worn and used.

Or taking any fan in any condition and making it look "well worn and used"  indistinguishable from a fan found in good condition in the wild......  This would involve a repaint to look old.   Get the lab rats involved to determine the formula for original paint.  Maybe the term could be "Patina Restoration" ..... This would have to be the most difficult form of restoration.  

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 Posted: Fri Aug 10th, 2018 06:31 pm
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William Dunlap
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Sometimes we should just let them age gracefully instead of trying to restore them.
Just sayin....it can go horribly wrong.

Freakshow by William Dunlap, on Flickr

Cheers,
Bill

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George Durbin
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Hi Bill!
Yup! My new category fits this too!

That is some major " WTH happened to that?!! "

Geo...

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Bobby Gaines
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Now I am really confused! But sometime that's not hard to do.LOl

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