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 Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2018 01:58 am
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Nathan Britt
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A few years ago my uncle found this fan on the side of the road and gave it to me. It was very rusty before I repainted it and after a couple of minutes of running the motor would overheat and stink up the house. It sat on the shelf for a few years and I finally decided to rewind the motor.






The problem is that the motor still heats up enough to scald your hand. Does anyone have any advice?

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 Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2018 10:19 pm
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Need more info, how fast does it heat up, what is the temperature, & what is the watt draw?

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 Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2018 12:30 am
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Nathan Britt
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It heats up about ten minutes after I start it. As for the temperature, I do not have an exact measurement, but I can feel heat radiating from the motor and it will scald your hand immediately when you touch it. I do not know how many watts it draws as I don't have a meter. I realize this fan is not valuable, but it was my first fan and I want to get it running right.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2018 12:57 am
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Nathan Britt wrote: It heats up about ten minutes after I start it. As for the temperature, I do not have an exact measurement, but I can feel heat radiating from the motor and it will scald your hand immediately when you touch it. I do not know how many watts it draws as I don't have a meter. I realize this fan is not valuable, but it was my first fan and I want to get it running right.
Hi Nathan. I rewound a similar motor to that for a Vornado. If the coils are not in the correct polarity, the motor will be weak and overheat. It is very important to know the current and watt draw to troubleshoot this.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2018 01:05 pm
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The coils must have alternating polarity...
If you hook up a DC supply or battery, (3 to 6 volts) to the stator windings,
put a small compass inside and the poles should alternate between north and south as you move
the compass around inside the stator.
If they do not alternate, reverse the connections on each coil until they do alternate.
Happy Fanning!

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 Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2018 10:52 pm
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Levi Mevis
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Your fan is whats referred to as a Dimestore fan, and those fans weren't built to the highest quality specs to begin with and the motors in those fans are what's referred to as a shaded pole motor and those kinds of motors tend to run hot generally speaking when running normally, anywhere between 120 and 140 degrees farenheit which is hot enough to "burn" you if you keep your hands on long enough while its running, but generally speaking, that's normal operations for a dimestore fan. 

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 Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2018 12:54 pm
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Your fan had a hot running motor in the beginning too, it would have been very warm to the touch.....

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Every fan collector should have a Kill-A-Watt meter.

https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1537203054&sr=8-3&keywords=killawatt

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https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1537203054&sr=8-3&keywords=killawatt

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Here's my newest most favorite watt meter:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Digital-Voltage-Wattmeter-Power-Analyzer-Electronic-Power-Energy-Meter-120V/182859911285?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D46aaa3155eb74cc9b944cd6fb175b05d%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D382444123747%26itm%3D182859911285&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

These are available from several vendors.  Best prices come from China vendors...
Make sure you get the US plug style & 120 VAC.

It has larger easier to see digits, backlit, and reads down to 0.1 watt.
(Easy to measure wall wart power consumption)

Happy Fanning!



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 Posted: Tue Sep 18th, 2018 03:54 pm
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Thanks for the tip John! That model seems to have a lot more features than the Kill-A-Watt; light display, battery, and almost half the price to boot. I'll be ordering a few of these.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 18th, 2018 11:01 pm
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I got mine at Harbor Freight for about the same price.

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