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 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2018 09:29 pm
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Peter Buffo
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 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2018 01:53 am
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Levi Mevis
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The fan on the far left in the photo is a late 1940s vintage Westinghouse PowerAire fan 12" model but it has the wrong blade assembly on it. the middle and right ones are what are called Westinghouse LivelyAire fans and they are also 10" models those date to the 1950s, and are 2 speed fans the PowerAire is a 3 speed fan.
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Thanks Levi! I had no idea that fan was that old! Any idea what fan blade should be on it? Also, what is the cleaning, lubricating and or grease points on it? All three run, but the cord and head wires need to be replaced on the left one badly, it sparked when I first plugged it in!Cheer,
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It’s not a far stretch to say this is not a factory wire job.... 3 wires, only two connected and the string was a nice touch!
I cleaned and repacked the oscillating gears and am set to rewire tomorrow 




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Actually the fan on the far left is also a 10-inch fan, not a 12-inch. It is a power-air from the late 1940's or early 1950's and the blades are correct. Some of the later fans of that style (10 inch versions only)  had those plastic blades.

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Levi Mevis
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David Northam wrote: Actually the fan on the far left is also a 10-inch fan, not a 12-inch. It is a power-air from the late 1940's or early 1950's and the blades are correct. Some of the later fans of that style (10 inch versions only)  had those plastic blades.

David that PowerAire I don't think has its original blade on it, because I've seen many a PowerAire from that time period (I actually own one myself a 16" model) and I know that they had the Micarta blades on them, and the 10 and 12 inch models had a chromed, or painted insert in the middle of the blades, the LivelyAires I know they have the original blades because I've seen those fans with those plastic blades on them before, in fact the church I grew up in had a LivelyAire just like those with the brown plastic blades but they threw the fan out because they thought that with all of the kids around the church that the fan would be a safety hazard, even though it had plastic blades which wouldn't of hurt anyone.

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Levi Mevis
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Peter Buffo wrote: It’s not a far stretch to say this is not a factory wire job.... 3 wires, only two connected and the string was a nice touch!
I cleaned and repacked the oscillating gears and am set to rewire tomorrow 




Actually that is a factory wiring job on that fan, the smaller PowerAire fans had shaded pole motors in them whereas the bigger 16" model had a PSC motor in it (where it uses a capacitor to make the motor run) which requires 3 wires whereas the Shaded Pole motors only need 2 wire to run.
Hope this helps.

Your PowerAire's fan blades should of looked like the one in the picture below or some variant upon that:


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Blades definitely look original on the power air, it is a cheaper later model hence the plastic blade. It is just missing the center cap


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Nice trio of Westinghouse fans !! The 3 wing is a mid 50's 1955 Poweraire 2 speed the blade IS Correct and they move tons of air quietly.The Powder Blue with translucent blue blade is a later Livelyaire renamed as the Pacemaker a premium fan introduced in 1962.The mauve and tan Westinghouse IS a Livelyaire,that blade is a Hemcolite blade as Westinghouse called it introduced in 1954.so I'd say it dates to about 1954 or later.All 10" fans !! All good fans !! Congrats !! 

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Thank you! Just figured out the headwire on the Poweraire was disconectes and got it running! It is beautifully smooth and moves serious air! I think the only part missing is the silver cap for the blade. 
All three Westys are for my Kids. Great finds and not one over $20. Here’s the data plate on the back.

Cheers!

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 Posted: Mon Nov 5th, 2018 06:57 am
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Hmm, your fan has an interesting way of doing the information tag, on my Westinghouse PowerAire (a 16" Model 16PA2 from about 1948 or so) has an actual metal tag riveted to the bottom of the fan motor housing that lists all of the specs (model number, Voltage, Frequency, Amps, and Serial Number) whereas yours has the information etched into the motor housing cover itself rather than an actual metal tag being riveted to the motor housing.


And I stand corrected about the blade assembly, I did a GIS and did find a couple of other 10" PowerAire fans with the same blade assembly as yours, but I don't imagine it was a very common blade assembly on these PowerAires because most of the PowerAires I've seen, early and late model ones had the 4 wing micarta blade assemblies with the chrome button in the middle or the large gray colored center hub like the 12" and 16" fans had on their blade assemblies, as the Micarta Blade Assemblies were what they were known for the most, not the cheap plastic ones.

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The three wing 10" Poweraire's are somewhat common. I have one too.

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I've never seen them before. I've only ever seen the ones with the micarta blades.

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The blade in question is indeed factory, and was the bladeset used at the end production run of the 10" version. The bladeset came from the Window Poweraire of that generation. I wondered if Westinghouse just decided it was cheaper to just use one blade as the Poweraire was being phased out of production.

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The 3-wing plastic blades are actually quite substantial and not "cheap." They are a heavy grade plastic and move a great amount of air very quietly just like the micarta blade versions. I don't have knowledge of the CFMs of the 4-blade micarta versus the 3-blade plastic, but I certainly know the plastic blades are great fans and are not the same of much later versions of plastic bladed fans in which the plastic was much more flimsy.

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The 4 blade fan on the right is a LivelyAire circa 1954
The clear Blue Blade Fan is also a LiveleyAire and is from the early 60s' (Jeff Rusnak or Mike Heffernan could tell you closer) 

The 3 blade on the far left is correct, and the earlier version had 4 bladesm but that color paint is correct for the 3 wing version. Jeff or Mike could tell you the year ranges

The LivelyAires came with metal blades in the 40s and early 50s, the 1954 fan you have here was followed by a later 50s version in aqua with same color blade and a very pale gray grille

After the blue blade fan, the Lively Aire was licensed out for manufacture with an avocado body and white blades and a different base

you have 3 nice fans! 


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