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 Posted: Mon Nov 5th, 2018 03:51 am
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Greg Graham
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I saw this fan yesterday and have no idea what it is.  I would appreciate it if anyone can identify it for me.  The asking price was $125, but without any knowledge of it, I passed it by.  I could not find a badge/name plate on it.
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 Posted: Mon Nov 5th, 2018 03:53 am
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Another photo.

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The base.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 5th, 2018 06:05 am
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That fan is what's called a Pacemaker, it was a dimestore variety Westinghouse fan that came as an 8" and 10" variety if I'm not mistaken, it was meant to compete with the Eskimos and the Zeros of that time period and they came in Oscillator and stationary models. 

They most certainly aren't worth the $125 asking price that the booth owner at that antique mall is asking for it, its only worth about $50 at best because of it being a dimestore model, if it was a higher end PowerAire, specifically an early "Darth Vader" model from the same time period (mid 1930s to early 1940s), then $125 no problem but not a dimestore variety fan like the Pacemaker.
Hope this helps.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 6th, 2018 12:39 am
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Thanks, Russ.
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 Posted: Tue Nov 6th, 2018 12:46 am
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Thanks, Levi.  When I looked at it, the cage and blades did not seem to match the housing and pedestal base.  They seemed less substantial and I thought they might not be a set.

Again, thanks for the information.

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Levi Mevis
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No Problem. Always Glad to Help. There was a couple of fans like that at the Fandango Meet last year and I remember that the Pacemakers that were there had a much different looking base than this one and if I remember right $50 was what that Pacemaker sold for. 

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Levi Mevis
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By the way Greg, you wouldn't happen to be related to any Grahams that lived in Indiana would you? I'm asking because I'm related to some Grahams myself as that was the last name of my g-g-g-grandparents on my mom's mother's side of the family.

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Maybe.  My family migrated in two directions, Illinois and Missouri, from Kentucky.  My branch went to Missouri, so it would be a distant connection.
Greg

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I'll take a look at my family tree information and get back to you with some names through PM so as to not clutter your post here.

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if on the bottom of the motor the cat. no. says its a 10 LP-3 then its a Westinghouse Frostaire circa 1936-37 the Frostaire was a one, maybe 2 year production run predecessor to the Pacemaker that took over in late 37 The Pacemakers then went all the way to 46' then the 10" and 12" became the LivelyAire, and the 16" became the Standard







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I have the table fan version.  Another tidbit, that base is correct, and being that fan was such a short production,and a pedestal, i think $125 is more than a fair price, if it runs. i'd pay that.  interestingly enough before the pacemaker line came out as "Pacemaker", after the Frostaire's from 37', in 1938 the line was called the clipper they has a 8" 10" 12" and a 10" and 12" pedestal.  then in 1939 they released the same models as the "Pacemaker". identical look, different name. i cant imagine why they changed it lol.1936-37 catalog

1937 catalog

1938 catalog


1939-40 brochure



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I think that solves it Kyle.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2018 12:15 pm
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OK, I was wondering about that, I knew the Pacemakers looked like that but apparently they were called Frost-Aires originally before they became the Pacemakers.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2018 02:07 pm
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Yup the late 30s early 40s were a strange time for Westinghouse but some great fans came from that

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 Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2018 02:11 pm
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yes, that was when the PowerAires first came out specifically the "Darth Vader" model (which was the first generation PowerAire) I actually own a second generation PowerAire from about 1948 and mine is in darn near mint condition (except for some rust on the cage).

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 Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2018 06:00 pm
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Kyle, thanks for the information, it is very helpful.
Greg

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