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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2019 07:01 pm
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Russ Huber
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Did Eck use resistance wire(nichrome) speed control in some of their AC models such as the model pictured? Notice the base on this example is not bulbous shaped to allow room for a speed coil or transformer.   

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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2019 07:02 pm
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Bulbous base Eck AC. 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 12:29 am
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Is it possible that someone used a 16" flatter base for that 12" fan motor as a replacement?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 12:36 am
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Steve Stephens wrote: Is it possible that someone used a 16" flatter base for that 12" fan motor as a replacement?
You tell me. That is an image you posted in past. I used it based on the guard used.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 01:09 am
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You know, the AC 12" Eck with brass guard and standard 4 wing blade dates 13-16.  The AC 12" Eck with the brass guard and --ming blade dates 1917 to 20 circa.  When you bid crazy money on the --ming blade example remember it is a later model and your paying mooco bucks more to get the blade.  Think about it. :clap: :D

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 01:19 am
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I'd prefer the Ming blade on the 12" model and would value it higher, especially is it had an original brass guard when new.   It's more the fan and condition and not the age as much that interest me.
Russ, that flat base Ming ECK I posted previously; the image was probably from an ebay auction and I did not take notice of the base being different or why it was different.  A mystery for now I guess.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 01:50 am
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Steve Stephens wrote: Russ, that flat base Ming ECK I posted previously; the image was probably from an ebay auction and I did not take notice of the base being different or why it was different.  A mystery for now I guess.

One way to make it easier to figure out, how many other 12" AC examples out there with that lower profile base?




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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2019 02:06 am
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1918 electrical trade image. Check out the low profile base. "MADE IN 12" AND 16" SIZES"

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Hi Russ, The brass cage 12" osl with ming blade has a 1904 pat. and 1910. I have that exact fan in my collection.Was the blade wrong?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2019 04:44 am
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Stephen Chew wrote: Hi Russ, The brass cage 12" osl with ming blade has a 1904 pat. and 1910. I have that exact fan in my collection.Was the blade wrong?

No. Eck Dynamo it appears started using the Irving propeller reissued 15 patent(---ming blade) on their motor tags after the 17/18 --ming blade models were on the market.


I have no clue how long Eck Dynamo had those --ming blade models on the market.  In the full read electrical trade books up to 1922 there is no mention of the --ming blade being taken off the market.


Are there any 12" --ming blade models with STEEL SPOT WELD GUARDS I am not aware of?


 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2019 06:15 pm
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Some ECKs that I have photos of...  but no welded cage Ming blade versions.
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16" (this is the fan I posted before and you copied to this thread above)










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