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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2019 03:27 am
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Mel Lagarde
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i have a pristine 20” box fan that I bought recently that has a completely shot set of bearings and quite possibly shaft damage from the bearing damage that appear to have never been oiled.  Fan sounds like it is it is coming apart.  It is in pristine condition but I fear the pristine condition comes from the fan being damaged early in its life and put away until it was sold to me as is. 

Well what I would like to know if there is anyone that repairs these type adjustable bearing motors and or presses new shafts onto rotors?  

Any advice would be most appreciated. 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 8th, 2019 04:46 pm
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I think there are some people on here that do bearing replacements and shaft replacement for fan motors, not sure if they do box fans or not but I know they do table fans. I just can't remember who it is of the top of my head currently.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2019 10:49 am
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Thank you, Levi.  I will keep looking.  Maybe if I can find a replacement motor that runs well I will swap the motor. I just. Don’t know much about these box fans.  
Mel

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Looks like a pretty standard motor used on lots of box fans of the era to me.

You should be able to source one fairly easily. I think I have a Westinghouse with the same motor.

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The motor says it's a 1000 RPM motor (That's measured on High Speed setting) which means that was a fairly quiet and low speed box fan compared to most box fans from that time period, especially on medium and low speeds, that would of been a great sleeping fan! 🤔😀

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2019 11:20 am
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Andrew and Levi
Thank you for the comments.  I am now searching for a replacement three speed motor that works well from another like model fan. 

I am not experienced with box fans.  Serves me right buying something without asking more questions. Live and learn.  

Mel

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 Posted: Mon Jan 14th, 2019 01:24 am
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Your fan is incredible.  Reversible and beautiful condition.  Any idea when these fans were produced?

Mel


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I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 14th, 2019 11:20 am
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I do not collect these box fans and concentrate only on the early desk and ceiling fans, but I took a shot at trying to sort this out myself.  
So I finally got around to taking this motor out of the fan.  When I found the blade was nearly to impossible to remove, I became suspicious.   
I found the blade had been installed incorrectly and it was not sitting on the shaft properly.  There was blade travel on the shaft causing the hub to wallow the shaft just enough to cause the racket. 
I lightly filed the shaft unevenness with a finishing file and slowly got the shaft back in round.  The blade center was in great shape.  

I cleaned the motor and and bearings, they were fantastic, and replaced the head wires and the industrial line cord that someone had installed in the past.  Put it all back together, installed the blade and tightened it properly and fired it up.  

Quiet as a mouse with great spin down. I was lucky. 

Thank you all for your posts. 

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Great news!

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mel , i was glad you were able to get this working and quiet. your freshndaire fan was actually in most part a chelsea fan of the same vintage with a different motor. .. the blade is chelsea but unpainted finish and the frame and  box and grilles are definitely chelsea. i have one on the rollabout stand now i had 2 at one point, and also i went to an estate sale and found two of the deluxe model in the boxes for $5 each , including the directions, window panels and all the packing. talk about a $10 hit! 3 speed reverse with pushbuttons thermo and signal light ......Anyway the biggest fault of this Chelsea blade, whether painted or unpainted is the rubber spacer between the blade hub and the setscrew hub . The rubber turns to a black tar and will spit all over and eventually the blade is out of balance and not usable and you have a mess. just check that rubber spacer and see if it is getting soft. i have sealed mine with light layers of Elmers Glue all to seal out the air. It has worked. Later in the 50s the rubber ring was eliminated on the Chelsea blades which were still used in the Freshnaaire box fans before the became rebadged Toastmasters........

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Mel Lagarde wrote: Russ
Any idea when these fans were produced?

Mel



Mid 50s.

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Levi Mevis wrote: I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.
Cory Corp bought out all rights and patents to Fresh'nd-aire in ………..1943.

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Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.
Cory Corp bought out all rights and patents to Fresh'nd-aire in ………..1943.
Russ, notice I said "right around the time" meaning within several years of when it actually happened. So my comment was still valid.

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Levi Mevis wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.
Cory Corp bought out all rights and patents to Fresh'nd-aire in ………..1943.
Russ, notice I said "right around the time" meaning within several years of when it actually happened. So my comment was still valid.

1943 until "I'm guessing 50s"(1950-1959) is a bit of a span, don't you think?   :wondering:

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Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.
Cory Corp bought out all rights and patents to Fresh'nd-aire in ………..1943.
Russ, notice I said "right around the time" meaning within several years of when it actually happened. So my comment was still valid.

1943 until "I'm guessing 50s"(1950-1959) is a bit of a span, don't you think?   :wondering:
Not really, only a decade, that's not that far off, it could of been 20 or 30 years off which if that was the case then I would call my comment into question. But the guess as to how old the fan was was spot on, whereas my other part of my comment was meant to be more of a general time frame rather than an exact time frame comment.

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Levi Mevis wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: I'm guessing 1950s because that's right around when Cory Industries took over ownership of Fresh'nd Aire.
Cory Corp bought out all rights and patents to Fresh'nd-aire in ………..1943.
Russ, notice I said "right around the time" meaning within several years of when it actually happened. So my comment was still valid.

1943 until "I'm guessing 50s"(1950-1959) is a bit of a span, don't you think?   :wondering:
Not really, only a decade, that's not that far off, it could of been 20 or 30 years off which if that was the case then I would call my comment into question. But the guess as to how old the fan was was spot on, whereas my other part of my comment was meant to be more of a general time frame rather than an exact time frame comment.

1943 to 1953 = 1 decade.  1953 to 1959 = 6 years. 10 years + 6 years = 16 years

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the generation fan shown in the very top photo is 1956 ish to 1958 ish i believe. The tags say FreshnDaire by Cory. Also interesting (and has come up on this site) is that the pushbutton label says Automatic but neither of  rollabouts had a timer or thermostat, just the two window models ..... 

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Tom Zapf wrote: the generation fan shown in the very top photo is 1956 ish to 1958 ish i believe. The tags say FreshnDaire by Cory. Also interesting (and has come up on this site) is that the pushbutton label says Automatic but neither of  rollabouts had a timer or thermostat, just the two window models ..... 

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Trademark serial 71532809 filed Aug. 29, 1947 to Cory Corp.

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Trademark serial 71680520 filed Dec. 27, 1955.

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My fanback together and working well.  I did take advice from Tom and sealed the rubber lining between the blade and the hub.  Good advice.  I will keep this practice undated.  This fan really runs well now.  I was fortunate.  Cool fans.  Gotta love the thermostat light.   

My thanks to all of you.  I learned so much. 


Mel


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That is nice.  :clap:

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I have one almost identical to this one, by looking at the motor mounting and the blades I’m almost positive this one was made by Lakewood for Cory.The reversible one Russ Huber has pics of

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