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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2019 09:48 pm
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Allen Bennett
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1939 Vortalex pedestal.  It has a rotten, round rubber cord that must be replaced.  My customer will use the fan outside and wants a fabric cord, but I'm reluctant to use fabric as the cord will likely be damaged.  Is there any source for really flexible round electrical cord that might be acceptable?  And, brown if possible.  I've searched high and low on the internet with no luck.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2019 02:23 am
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Fabric cord nowadays is just vinyl cord sheathed in fabric.

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Andrew Block wrote: Fabric cord nowadays is just vinyl cord sheathed in fabric.
Actually original cloth covered wire was originally rubber insulated wire sheathed in fabric like nylon or silk, but because of the fact that rubber was a relatively new material at that time they had yet to come up with a durable form of rubber that would last for a long time so most of the old cloth cords from that time period are now no good because the rubber insulation inside the cloth sheathing had long since dry rotted which made the cord brittle and thus a fire hazard. 


Although by the 1940s and 1950s they had perfected the rubber formula enough that most rubber cords and even original cloth heater cords from the 1940s and 1950s like what was used on clothes irons, toasters, waffle irons electric skillets, etc at that time can still be found in extremely good shape yet that is just as flexible as it was brand new.

So technically there really isn't much difference between how cloth wire is made today and how it was originally made.  

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I would check out vacuum cleaner cords.  Round & very flexible.
(I look for stuff like that at flea markets, second hand, thrift stores.) 
Also look for 10 to 15' black extension cords at hardware stores, and cut off the end.
Hospital cords are also good, (They also have a large easy to grip plug)

Unless it's a museum quality fan, I would not get too concerned about the power cord.
They were always a user replaceable item.  I would get a long 12 to 15" cord to make it
easy to position...
Happy Fanning!

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 Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2019 06:20 pm
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Thanks everyone for the input.  I'm going to check with the owner to verify the use outdoors.  When she see the transformation, she might change her mind, particularly since it was her late father's fan. If so, I'll go with a bronze colored rayon sheathed cord.
I'll keep my eye out for a really flexible cord and will do a search for vacuum cleaner cord.

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Allen,
We offer the most flexible cloth cord on the market designed for electric fans to be used as power cord.  The exterior is black woven cloth covering and the individual conductors are real soft rubber insulated.  A wonderful product for you to consider.

http://antiquefanparts.com/2-conductor-black-twisted-head-cord-with-black-cloth-sheath-wire/


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I second Chad's comments if I would of had fans that were old enough to use it I would most certainly buy the wire he has, it's also precut to 8 foot lengths.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2019 09:52 pm
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Chad Baker wrote:[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]We offer the most flexible cloth cord on the market designed for electric fans to be used as power cord.  The exterior is black woven cloth covering and the individual conductors are real soft rubber insulated.  A wonderful product for you to consider.[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]

[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]Hey Chad, Tom Newcity recommended you some time ago; I buy the wire you mentioned in both 2 wire and 3 wire configurations for all of my restorations.  On this GE Pedestal, I used your 2 conductor wire for the long head wire running from the pedestal base to the motor.  The customer wanted a brown or bronze line cord, so that's why I posed the original question.  
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[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]P.S. You recently sold me a 6250 base plate for this fan  You are a wonderful resource!

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Allen,
Great and thanks for your business.  I figured the color may be an issue.  Thanks for the consideration and hopefully we can fit the bill for your next project.

Thanks

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Your Vortalex never had a cloth cord on it originally, it was always a rubber round cord with a art deco style plug. I have a few of the pedestal fans with their original cords.

Quite honestly, this is the closest thing I have seen. Round rubber in brown with a fairly decent looking molded plug.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Genuine-Rainbow-Vacuum-Electric-Power-Cord-Part-D4C-D4CSE-used/273680131180?epid=2086160270&hash=item3fb89b646c:g:SK8AAOSw6~pcUytC:sc:USPSFirstClass!70001!US!-1:rk:19:pf:0

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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 12:41 am
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This is the original plug and cord.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 12:50 am
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Allen Bennett
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Andrew, how long is the original cord?

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Per the repair manual, most cordsets were 8'. I usually make them longer for convenience on restorations.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 01:00 am
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Allen Bennett
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Excellent.  I’ll go for something between 8-9 ft

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If you're going to use the fan outside, you definitely want rubber or vinyl.

My cloth cords (mostly used on floor lamps) get dirty just from the dust and dirt my dogs track in and they are impossible to clean.

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