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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 06:29 am
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Levi Mevis
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Hello everyone at a local antique mall there is what I'm guessing is a 1920s vintage 16" Diehl 3 Speed Oscillating fan that is missing its original switch and speed coil assembly and also some of the oscillator parts and they want $65 for the fan in its current condition and I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to pick it up and see if I could attempt to fix it up.
the finish on the fan isn't too bad of shape and the original blades and cage are still intact yet as well as the markings for the switch. 

Any information on this fan and whether or not its worth buying and fixing up would be appreciated.

Pictures of the fan in question posted below. 







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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 11:19 am
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Michael Rathberger
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Hard pass in my opinion

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 11:26 am
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Nope, unless you need parts from it. 

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 11:45 am
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Levi Mevis
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Ok, I was wondering about that. I had passed  on it several times already. So what about this fan makes it not worth getting and fixing up?

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 12:16 pm
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The cost and time in sourcing the parts it needs, plus the overall collectability of it. Pure utilitarian with little asthetic. Save the money for the next one.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 12:40 pm
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Levi Mevis
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ok, I was just curious as I've never dealt with Diehl fans before. Are there certain Diehl Fans I should look out for and ones I should avoid?

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 01:00 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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I think the early fans are way better, as most - - later they all went to stamped steel/pot metal etc.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 01:17 pm
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Levi Mevis wrote: ok, I was just curious as I've never dealt with Diehl fans before. Are there certain Diehl Fans I should look out for and ones I should avoid?


I can't answer that Levi, it's a broad question. Buy what you like, but try to buy complete fans is the point I was making in my answers. I've bought tons of incomplete early fans for parts when they're cheap, but I pass when they're not.


 


There are very valuable fans out there, you've been here a long time, you should be able to spot what they are by now. You could also invest in the Witt book, it's way outdated now, but will give you an indication. There's 10 people in your area that have been at it a long time, get to know them and get their guidance too, I did early with Fred Martenson (skinned me 10 times on trades) and John Simmerline, both knew what they were doing but have since passed.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 15th, 2019 01:57 pm
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Michael Rathberger wrote: Levi Mevis wrote: ok, I was just curious as I've never dealt with Diehl fans before. Are there certain Diehl Fans I should look out for and ones I should avoid?


I can't answer that Levi, it's a broad question. Buy what you like, but try to buy complete fans is the point I was making in my answers. I've bought tons of incomplete early fans for parts when they're cheap, but I pass when they're not.

 

There are very valuable fans out there, you've been here a long time, you should be able to spot what they are by now. You could also invest in the Witt book, it's way outdated now, but will give you an indication. There's 10 people in your area that have been at it a long time, get to know them and get their guidance too, I did early with Fred Martenson (skinned me 10 times on trades) and John Simmerline, both knew what they were doing but have since passed.

Yes, I know and why I asked about this Diehl is because I've heard different people say different things about Diehl Fans as far as whether or not to buy them. As for knowing what fans are collectible and which ones aren't I'm still kind of unclear about that as there seems to be varying opinions about which fans are collectible and which aren't, and seeing as the ones that most people find the most collectible on here, the pre 1920s fans (or pre stamped steel fans) those don't come up very often near me unfortunately, and when they do, they are usually in horrible condition (rusty, excessive loss of paint, missing parts, etc.), so usually the fans I come across or people give me are fans from the 1920s-1970s, with exception to one fan in my collection which was kind of a fluke that I came across it. 

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 Posted: Mon Mar 18th, 2019 05:28 pm
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I think you'd be hard pressed to get their asking price even if it was cleaned up and running.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 18th, 2019 08:25 pm
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As far as valuable/collectable, that is of course a matter of opinion. I am relatively new to this, but I have been gathering up old stuff of all sorts for a long time. As far as fans, generally speaking, cast iron/brass is more valuable money wise and "collectable" than stamped steel, and much easier to fix/restore than stamped steel. I can take a pancake completely apart in less than an hour, probably less than a half hour though I've never timed it. I have around a dozen and have taken most of them apart, at least mostly apart, never had much problem. Tanks are a close second, though there is a couple tricky parts to it. Save up a few hundred bucks and you can get into a decent cast 'n' brass fan, maybe a project but you are pretty handy. I think I got my first tank for $150-&175. I can probably piece together a basketcase pancake for you for a few hundred. Wouldn't be a museum piece, and some parts would need to be sourced. You'd need to run it off a Variac, and do some sanding/painting, but you'd be in the game. Let me know, we are all here to help each other.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 18th, 2019 09:47 pm
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Thanks everyone, so it seems I'll just pass on this fan then just like I have been doing this whole time. I just wanted to check and make sure.

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"The cost and time in sourcing the parts it needs, plus the overall collectability of it. Pure utilitarian with little asthetic. Save the money for the next one."
Michael, very nicely worded.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 19th, 2019 02:33 am
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Levi Mevis
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Unfortunately though the only thing is that all I can afford with my budget is the newer stamped steel fans like the Vortalexes and the Emerson 77 and 79 series fans or the Westinghouse PowerAires or the wide variety of Dimestore fans like the Dominions, Eskimos, Zeros etc. all of the old cast iron fans like the Menominees, GE Pancakes, Westinghouse Tanks, R & M Feather Vanes, and Lollipops, or the Westinghouse Vane Oscillators are way out of my price range (unless someone who doesn't know what they have gives me an old Cast Iron fan from the early 20th century, like what happened with me and the Menominee I have currently).

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It's all about the waiting. If you save well and don't impulsively buy fans every month, you'd be amazed at what you can afford. Buy less, but only buy the best.

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