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 Posted: Tue Mar 19th, 2019 11:49 pm
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William Dunlap
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I just finished my latest project; the 12" Coleman Deflector. A bit of history. How many of these exist?Certainly just a handful now. Mostly due to the efforts of Todd Mann who made some of these a while ago. Very fine craftsmanship from a talented guy.


So, this is my effort. 





I'm rather surprised and pleased at the result. First, it makes a great accessory for your stationary fan, making it much more usable. I rarely use my Trojan because of it, but I suspect I will after I get the time to make my own.


This one is spoken for as is the next one, which will be an eight inch version.

As most of my projects are, this one is basically a money loser, so I'll make just a few, the move on to something else.


That something else has already popped into my pea brain. How about a deflector with two sets of vanes? Split these in half, four on top and four on the bottom. Have them contra-rotating. Half the wind goes to the left and half to the right. Also, you can have space for a badge, a logo, or something in the middle since you'll need a bar across the middle to anchor the bottom of the top vanes and the tops of the bottom vanes.


I know I know....I have a problem.....but at least it keeps me off the streets, as my Dad used to say.


Cheers,
Bill




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 Posted: Wed Mar 20th, 2019 12:02 am
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David Kilnapp
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My mother says to my wife, "at least he's not chasing skirts in bars". It's beautiful. I have one myself on a 1912 Fidelity fan. Most money I ever spent on a fan but I had to have one. Yours is stunning. My deflector's brass isn't polished like yours. It sure is pretty! Gorgeous craftsmanship!!

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 Posted: Wed Mar 20th, 2019 12:02 am
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Jim Kovar
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Wow, Bill!  Very cool.

Never tire watching a
Coleman Deflector.


Could see your reflection
in the vanes as they went
side to side...


  :wondering:  Why weren't you
              clothed?   :shock:

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 Posted: Wed Mar 20th, 2019 12:05 am
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Hi Bill!

It is a good problem to have my friend...


That is another reason why I have a couple


of your projects!


Geo...

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 Posted: Wed Mar 20th, 2019 09:45 pm
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Richard Daugird
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Beutiful fabrication work as always Will. I have one of Todd's and it was the hit of the Galveston Fan Meet.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 24th, 2019 04:57 am
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William Dunlap
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Thanks for all the nice comments.Here's a couple pics of it mounted on my '02 Pancake. It seems more age appropriate to me.
Anyway, instead of using the existing cage mount points on the motor, I've used the motor studs as there is just enough stud there to allow it, and they are placed in more convenient locations rather than the 6,9,12,3 of the original struts. That makes the top strut very awkward to use as you may have seen on other installations.
These use shorter plain struts that mount to the motor opposed to the Trojan. It's a very neat installation I think.
Only thing about the Pancake installation is that the oil return do-hicky has to come off. I don't know what that will mean for my drapes...... :shock:The pictures are a little dark because...it's dark now. I'm saving my time tomorrow for a motorcycle ride. The weather has been just amazing lately.
It's running as I write this now about two feet from my head. It's on speed 4 which is second highest, but it is absolutely silent.  Can't hear the fan or the deflector.
Cheers,
Bill
007 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

006 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

005 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

004 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

008 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

Last edited on Sun Mar 24th, 2019 04:57 am by William Dunlap

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 Posted: Sun Mar 24th, 2019 12:38 pm
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Tony Clayton
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Bill,
As always another knocked out of the park! Amazing Incredible Craftsmanship.
Your skills never fail to amaze me.

Tony

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 Posted: Mon Mar 25th, 2019 02:54 am
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Bobby Gaines
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Very Very Cool as always



Bobby

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 Posted: Mon Mar 25th, 2019 07:12 am
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William Dunlap
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Here are some pics of Coleman Deflectors I have been using as a guide for mine. Note that there are no two alike and they vary considerably in detail from one to the next. This I thought gave me carte blanche in deciding what details to use in my re-construction. It's hardly a reproduction as you can see.Which one would I chose to copy?Cheers,
Bill


Coleman deflector 15 by William Dunlap, on Flickr


Coleman deflector03 by William Dunlap, on Flickr


Coleman deflector01 by William Dunlap, on Flickr


Coleman deflector 21 by William Dunlap, on Flickr


Coleman deflector 18 by William Dunlap, on Flickr

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 Posted: Tue Mar 26th, 2019 01:14 am
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Lucas Beshara
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Amazing work William!  You make some cool stuff. Got to see one of your creations in person down in Galveston a month or so ago. :up:

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 Posted: Tue Mar 26th, 2019 02:02 am
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 Posted: Tue Mar 26th, 2019 02:11 am
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 Posted: Tue Mar 26th, 2019 02:23 am
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It is a fact that manufacturers such as Diehl did offer the Coleman Deflector as an option to their(agencies) fan motor customers. Coleman must have sold direct to the manufacturers.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 26th, 2019 04:58 am
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William Dunlap
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Also, there is a suggestion of the existence of a 16" Version. I wonder if one of those will ever surface.

Cheers,
Bill

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 Posted: Mon Apr 1st, 2019 03:52 am
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William Dunlap
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I have finished the second version of the Coleman Deflector. I made some improvements, I think. First, I reduced the depth of the cage from 4 to 3 1/2 inches. This was mainly to lower the weight. When mounted to my Trojan, the fan was a bit nose heavy and might easily have been tipped over. But at the cost of smaller vanes(and less wind deflection) and a tighter fit on some fans. I fitted it to my Trojan and that problem was fixed. But, with the new gears I sourced, the oscillation was too fast in my opinion, right about 18rpm at 1500 rpm fan speed. So I mounted in on my Pancake and on speed 4 it seems just right. See video.

I'm having to learn more about gears.......and there's a lot to know.

I'm using garter springs for the drive belt. The rubber ones won't hold up, I don't think.

I also devised a different way to attach the vanes to the front ring using threaded rods. This eases assembly greatly. Then the vanes are attached to each other with a strut and the strut is attached to the vanes with "E" clips, also greatly easing assembly.


The vanes themselves are cut from red brass. I like the color but frankly it varies little from the other types of brass I'm using.


All the rest is the same.


Hopefully, I'll get to making an 8 inch version here in the next week or two, then the double reverse oscillation whatchamacallit.





Cheers,
Bill

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 Posted: Mon Apr 1st, 2019 11:52 am
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John Smalley
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great craftsmanship, hopefully be able to put on of these in my collection.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 4th, 2019 10:00 pm
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Bruce Allen
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If you decide to make some for AFCA members, I'm in. I would love to put one on one of my 1901 GE pancakes.
Beautiful work.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 14th, 2019 11:11 pm
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William Dunlap
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Here's the 8 inch Coleman Deflector. 




It's mounted to an 11644 single speed Emerson. With the later versions, ie 19644, threes speeds means a much slower oscillating speed in the lower gears.


I've sold all my Deflectors, now I don't have one for my pancake, which looks a bit bare now with just that old brass cage on it.


I'd better order some more brass....


Cheers,
Bill

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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2019 10:16 pm
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Bruce Allen
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Here's your deflector on my 1901 pancake. Thanks for selling it to me. If you ever make another one AND if you want to sell it..... I have another 1901 with a yoke mount that is painted up the same as this one.

Great stuff.




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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2019 11:59 pm
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William Dunlap
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Looks great on that Pancake. I loved it on mine. Thanks for the nice words.
Here's the second 8 inch Deflector.



Minor differences are red brass vanes like Bruce's and two sweep positions for the oscillator arm shouldered screw. Otherwise the same as the first.
Here it's mounted on an 11644 single speed fan again.

Cheers,
Bill


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