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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 01:38 am
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David Turner
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Hello, I have had these 2 G.E. pancake fans for many years, but have never known the date of manufacture because I didn’t ask.
The first one has on the motor tag : Type AB Form C No 151082 Spec : Blank . 

The second one has on the motor tag: Type AB Form B No 102326 Spec: 80042

Can I get some help with the date of manufacture? V/R David

I was unable to upload the 2nd fan.


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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 02:44 am
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John McComas
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Full ribbed base, and 10 S wire cage I believe is a 1903.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 02:55 am
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And your Form B is from 1902, first of the 5 speed models.  A pair of very nice pancakes.
You might be interested in my blog on pancakes:

http://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/02/ge-pancake-1894-1908.html

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 10:46 am
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David Kilnapp
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I love that fully ribbed base - exceptional!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 12:21 pm
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Very nice fans. The type AB form C is the first variant of that model. Within the 1903 model year there are three variants of the solid frame models, along with three variants each of the 12" and 16" swivel trunnion models. These fans were also badged as CGE and BTH. I've seen one carryover model of the 16" solid frame model type AA form C.
If you would, post the voltage and cycles for both fans and while you're at it, check the spec number on the 1902 and see if it isn't 30042 instead of 80042.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 01:45 pm
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Hello Kim , On the 1902 , it looks like spec 80042 but not sure. The 8 could possibly be a 3. On the 1903, the volts are 110/115 and 60 cycles. For the 1902, the volts are 100/115 and 60cycles. Thanks,David

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 01:53 pm
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Hello , This is the 1902 G.E. pancake.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 02:01 pm
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Hello, this is the Spec information on the 1902. My apologies for the image quality.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 02:16 pm
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The fans that I have in the GE survey for 1902, three have a spec number of 30048. They are all 12 inch swivel trunnions type AD form B 100/115volts  60 cycles. The only 1902 12 inch solid frame fan in the survey with a spec number is a type AB form B 100/115 volts 60 cycles spec 30045. Your tag says type AB form B 100/115v 60 cycles so the spec should be the same....30045. I would expect to see a difference in the last two numbers if it were a different volt/cycle ……..Just goes to show that when it comes to GE pancakes, never say never. Thanks for the info David. I will add your fans to the survey.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 7th, 2019 01:50 am
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Hello , I have another G.E. pancake fan that has never been looked at closely , that Kim can add to the pancake survey. Is it a 1904 or a 1905 ? The motor tag reads: Type AH Form D NO. 262005 110/115  Volts 60 Cycles. Thanks to those who established the identity of  the esteemed G.E. pancakes.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 7th, 2019 03:44 am
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David Turner wrote: Is it a 1904 or a 1905 ? The motor tag reads: Type AH Form DForm D is a 1904.  Form letters went away for quite a few years, until about 1914 than came back through the 1930s I think.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 7th, 2019 12:13 pm
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David, check your tag on the 1904 swivel trunnion and see if it doesn't read type AK instead of type AH and then take a close look at that serial number and see if the 262XXX isn't 202XXX. 1904 serial numbers fall in the range of 177501-205000. There are a few fans in the survey that fall outside that range, but only by a couple of thousand units.  That's not to say it's wrong...again, with GE, never say never. Also, is the blade hub cast brass or stamped brass?  In 1901, GE designated the swivel trunnion type AD and this continued thru model year 1903. In 1903, the swivel trunnion models started as type AD, then sometime that model year the designation changed to AK and continued thru the 1904 model year for both the 12" and 16" fans. Your fan is a later model 1904 with the smaller motor tag. The first '04 models were identical to the 1903 third variant model, with the exception of the form letters. Both had the larger brass motor tag.

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In the 1903 model year, the cake fans became base switched. The first models were full ribbed bases with four struts, 10 wire pierced guard, cast brass hub blades. 2nd variant models had three struts, full ribbed base, and cages appeared with eight wire pierced guards, and the occasional stamped brass blade appeared. The third variant models were half ribbed bases, three struts, and combinations of cage and blade types were used...ie.. 10 wire guard with stamped brass blade hub, 8 wire cage with cast brass blade hub...etc. The 1904 models were the same as the third variant 1903 models. Blades were mostly stamped brass hub and cages were mostly eight s-wire. This model year is when the 8 wire wrapped cages started appearing. The badge spiders on these cages are cast brass, unlike the stamped brass found on 1909 and later BMY cages...There is still debate on these cages but over 25% of the 1904 fans in the GE survey have wrapped rear ring cages.....

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