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 Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 02:57 am
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Owen Fishback
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Hello! New member here...
I got a Westinghouse 10LA2 yesterday that was working when I had it tested at the antique store, but once I got it home it did nothing. It had been at least partly rewired in the past... it was an old rewiring job if so. It was frayed in spots, taped in others. Today, I took on the task of rewiring when I discovered that the stator leads coming from the coils were only a single copper wire strand... and the insulation for them had become so fragile it broke off. Sadly, most of the copper wiring did too. It's very short now, maybe about half an inch of bare copper wire coming from the coils. I found it hard to believe a single strand of the wire could power the whole fan. I tried twisting it around the wire in my new power cord and twisting a connector cap over them. Just as expected, nothing.

For the time being, I guess my question is, what would be the direction to go? Everything else inside looks fine so far (as far as my limited knowledge goes) but there's so little stator wire left. Would I need a whole new motor coil, or is there any kind of miraculous workaround? I'll provide pictures if needed.

Thanks!

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 Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 03:19 am
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Matthew Albach
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Hi Owen,
Welcome to the family. To answer your questions I believe your fan
Is capacitor start type. If the capacitor fails the motor will not start needs a new capacitor. If you have multimeter can do continuity test to see if the capacitor or motor has continuity. The good is these fans are in good supply so Incase you can always get another one if needed.....

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 Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 02:58 pm
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Sean Campbell
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Welcome to the forum Owen! :D My first old fan was a Lively Aire as well. If memory serves Matthew is right on about the capacitor start. These fans are also fairly numerous and can be acquired cheaply. They can be difficult to work on, but are nice little runners when they work.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 8th, 2019 03:13 pm
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Richard Daugird
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You might just have a static display item on your hands, those can usually be had in great condition for about fifty bucks or less, I have ran across several.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2019 03:15 pm
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Owen Fishback
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Thanks, all! It'd be cool to have working for sure but it does still make a nice display item. At least now it's cleaned up enough inside if I ever get that chance though.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2019 04:47 pm
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John Fengel
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I don't believe that fan does not have a capacitor. Take a look at this posting and see if this is in fact what you have......


http://afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=36865&forum_id=5&highlight=Westinghouse+10LA2+

Last edited on Wed Jul 10th, 2019 04:47 pm by John Fengel

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 Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2019 06:33 pm
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Vic Valencheck
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John is right, there is no capacitor. I restored the same fan as you have.
If you can't pull out more lead wire. I would soldier the leads together and use liquid tape to insulate the connection.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 10th, 2019 08:16 pm
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Matthew Albach
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Is this motor a shade pole ?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2019 05:42 pm
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Owen Fishback
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Sorry for the delayed reply, I'll have to post some pictures of the inside here when I get a moment and hopefully answer some questions.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2019 04:48 pm
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PM sent. You might bring your fan to Fan Fair next week. There will be all kinds of experts there that would be happy to look at your fan.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2019 06:27 pm
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Owen Fishback
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I'll upload a few detail shots I got of the inside, it's nearly identical to the one in the rewiring post, but with the wires coming out from the coils.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2019 06:29 pm
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Owen Fishback
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The other wire is also a single copper strand, but slightly longer and with some insulation. (Some of the insulation around the coil on the right side has broken off too, but I assume some electrical tape would work for that.)

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 Posted: Sat Jul 13th, 2019 08:07 pm
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Gwen:  Here’s a video of a tear down I did a year or more ago to the extent it’s be of help. For me, the hardest part was putting it back together because the cage mounts inside the motor housing. Good luck!  https://youtu.be/G0yEhHUC3P0

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