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 Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 02:40 am
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Tom Warren
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I am working on a chromed desk fan which is a Fresh’ND-Aire and it now works well on all 3 speeds. My problem is that it runs backwards.  Has a G.E. motor, 3 speed and 2 blade 23 inch prop. This is a type l have never worked on. It has two wires going to stator and the speed coil switch has 2 wires coming out. Guess I am a sucker but it was a total basket case so I told my friend I would fix it.  Well, I sure did as it now runs great backwards. 
Does anyone have experience with these and perhaps suggestions for fixing it?  




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 Posted: Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 03:43 am
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If it only has 2 wires going to the stator, (shaded pole, not a PSC motor which would have 3 wires) its likely that the stator is installed inside the motor housing backwards.

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What is the best way to remove the stator?  The G.E. motor appears to have a heavy steel housing. 
Thanks for the prompt reply. 

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I don't have experience with taking apart a fresh'd aire, sorry. 

Hopefully someone more experienced than myself will chime in soon. 


Depending on how the motor is put together, it may be easy to remove the motor end bells and flip the stator around. 


This reminds me of a similar situation I read about regarding a different fan. 
http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/48479.html

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Take the motor end bells off( remove the 4 bolts) and turn the center part of the motor containing the stator around and put the end bells back on. The 2 motor wires should exit the back of the motor.

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Thank you very much. 

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Russ Huber wrote: Take the motor end bells off( remove the 4 bolts) and turn the center part of the motor containing the stator around and put the end bells back on. The 2 motor wires should exit the back of the motor.
Well... wut I would do is turn the plug over to reverse the flow of electricity to the fan and it will turn the right way for him...
I used to do this with microwaves too! The plug with that nuisance round thingy in the way all the time... Just cut it off... Then you turn the plug over in the socket and the electricity will flow backwards through the microwave effectively turning it into a refrigerator! I have done this many, many times! Very handy if your refrig. Quits and you need a backup! After your main refrig is repaired just turn the plug back over and you are back in the heating food business!

Geo...:bow:bigfan

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:clap: Thanks for the help 


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I already changed it as Russ advised and that was a fix; before I saw the message. The fan was literally a basket case and the owner is overjoyed knowing it works.  
I shall remain an AFCA member as long as I live!  

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Andrew White wrote: I don't have experience with taking apart a fresh'd aire, sorry. 

Hopefully someone more experienced than myself will chime in soon. 


Depending on how the motor is put together, it may be easy to remove the motor end bells and flip the stator around. 


I just backed him up. I had a Tesla fan motor once years ago that was purchased with the stator in backwards:D

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George Durbin wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Take the motor end bells off( remove the 4 bolts) and turn the center part of the motor containing the stator around and put the end bells back on. The 2 motor wires should exit the back of the motor.
Well... wut I would do is turn the plug over to reverse the flow of electricity to the fan and it will turn the right way for him...
I used to do this with microwaves too! The plug with that nuisance round thingy in the way all the time... Just cut it off... Then you turn the plug over in the socket and the electricity will flow backwards through the microwave effectively turning it into a refrigerator! I have done this many, many times! Very handy if your refrig. Quits and you need a backup! After your main refrig is repaired just turn the plug back over and you are back in the heating food business!

Geo...:bow:bigfan
Uh yeh George& after you do that stand barefoot in water for the best effect!:light:

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Stan Adams wrote: George Durbin wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Take the motor end bells off( remove the 4 bolts) and turn the center part of the motor containing the stator around and put the end bells back on. The 2 motor wires should exit the back of the motor.
Well... wut I would do is turn the plug over to reverse the flow of electricity to the fan and it will turn the right way for him...
I used to do this with microwaves too! The plug with that nuisance round thingy in the way all the time... Just cut it off... Then you turn the plug over in the socket and the electricity will flow backwards through the microwave effectively turning it into a refrigerator! I have done this many, many times! Very handy if your refrig. Quits and you need a backup! After your main refrig is repaired just turn the plug back over and you are back in the heating food business!

Geo...:bow:bigfan
Uh yeh George& after you do that stand barefoot in water for the best effect!:light:


George has already done that, at least once,.... Does that help explain anything Stan??? :wondering: :wondering: :wondering:

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George Durbin wrote: Russ Huber wrote: Take the motor end bells off( remove the 4 bolts) and turn the center part of the motor containing the stator around and put the end bells back on. The 2 motor wires should exit the back of the motor.
Well... wut I would do is turn the plug over to reverse the flow of electricity to the fan and it will turn the right way for him...
I used to do this with microwaves too! The plug with that nuisance round thingy in the way all the time... Just cut it off... Then you turn the plug over in the socket and the electricity will flow backwards through the microwave effectively turning it into a refrigerator! I have done this many, many times! Very handy if your refrig. Quits and you need a backup! After your main refrig is repaired just turn the plug back over and you are back in the heating food business!

Geo...:bow:bigfan

It would of worked if you weren't standing in water barefoot:tumbs

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Hahah!

U guys throwing smoke on my methods and years of scientific experimentation?
I am a professional!


Geo...

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I gave a microwave school to 25 Sears
techs about 25 years ago... These were 
relatively new techs I was training on
microwave theory and repair. I had 
Diagrams mechanical and electrical
on an overhead for the class! The 1st
ten minutes i went through this cutting
off the ground and turning the plug
over to make the microwave refrigerate
Instead of heat... I had about half be-
lievers and the other half VERY
skepticle... The funniest thing as I was
giving this school I was looking to my
left and my boss had slipped in to
See how I was doing... He did not tell 
me the regional service manager was
accompanying him... And there was my boss his shaking head in his hands and his boss was looking at me with disbelief on his
Face!!
In the end after my prank they all rated 
Me ten out of ten for the micro class!


Geo... 

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That is hilarious & frightening. Frightening that some would actually believe it!

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Stan Adams wrote: That is hilarious & frightening. Frightening that some would actually believe it!


Heheh, in those days if you did not pass the class you was terminated! So I was God! And I am sure most were being polite ... I did have several mote takers though... 

Geo...

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