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 Posted: Fri Aug 16th, 2019 02:51 am
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Terry Plata
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The old gyro ceiling fans are really intriguing....but then I like different and unusual stuff. Does anyone know at what speed they rotate? Not the blade speed, the rpm at which they rotate?





I am considering making a Frankenfan gyro using spare parts and bits of miscellaneous treasures from my "raw materials inventory" (the stuff my lovely wife calls junk). For the gyro motor I have a grill rotisserie motor/gearbox that may work. I think it rotates about 3 to 4 rpm which may be just about right.





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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 02:09 am
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 The speed is whatever you would like it to be...it just depends on how you rotate the fan motors... interesting idea on your Franken fan  here is a picture of my first one 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 02:27 am
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David, I applaud your creativity! You have taken a pile of scrap iron and built a most unique fan. I dug the rotisserie motor out of the sacred raw materials vault and found it to run at 4 1/2 rpm. The dual fans are a dumpster find from a neighbor's remodel job. I did not get the ceiling mount portion of the fan but that's not important now. I would like to find the patent number on a real gyro to take a looksee at the patent drawings, wonder how they did that back then? I will keep you informed.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 01:14 pm
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Add a vacuum & e a remote control !! Roomba-Fan!

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Bernard Stowe of Jandus patented his Gyro.

Oliver Jennings and I believe Harold Sheibe from Westinghouse holds teen gyro patents.

Edward Shaw from the General Electric.

Your either going to use the principle of wind generated from the blades to rotate the gyro. or a mechanical means of rotation. It's not rocket science.

Put vanes on the front of the guards.  :D








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Oh ya, I forgot Herbert Finch's gyro patent for Emerson:D

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Marathon single spinner.  :D

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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 02:23 pm
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Slip rings out of an alternator. 

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Looking through my raw materials vault I have an old Electrolux vacuum cleaner cord recoil thingie that will likely become the slip rings. If not, an old alternator is right behind that. So the rotary motion will be a bbq grille rotisserie, Electrolux for the slip rings and a Hampton Bay dual ceiling fan for the wind power. All I have to do now is put it all together. This is gonna be good! 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 17th, 2019 10:12 pm
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Can anyone come up with a gyro patent number so I can see the original drawings? 
By the way, I will take two of the Marathon's in the ad above.

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OK,
so here are top secret photos from the raw materials vault. One Hampton Bay discarded fan, a rotisserie motor and vacuum cleaner cord rewinder. Put them all together and hope for an interesting gyro. Note that no antique or vintage fans will be harmed during this exercise.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 18th, 2019 03:52 am
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Terry Plata wrote: Can anyone come up with a gyro patent number so I can see the original drawings? 
By the way, I will take two of the Marathon's in the ad above.

Place the names of the engineers I posted above into google patents and see what you come up with. You will have none of the Marathon circulators I posted as so far it "appears" none have surfaced.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2019 03:19 am
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Accumulating parts and oops, forgot I need some kind of thrust bearing for the rotating business end. Hmmm, back to the raw materials vault.

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Russ, I looked up the patents of Herbert Finch. Wow, quite an active inventor for electric fan improvements. thanks for the tip. Terry Plata

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https://patents.google.com/patent/US1295618?oq=1295618

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https://patents.google.com/patent/US1270832?oq=revolving+fan

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https://patents.google.com/patent/US816759?oq=bernard+stowe+fan

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 Posted: Mon Aug 19th, 2019 05:22 am
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Essex gyro. 05-08.

https://afcaforum.com/forum1/44690.html



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Fantastic photos Russ! Is the GE fan yours? It appears the thrust bearings are on the downrod just above the motor. You can even see the brush holders on the main body. Man I would love to take that apart!!

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Terry Plata wrote: Is the GE fan yours? It appears the thrust bearings are on the downrod just above the motor. You can even see the brush holders on the main body. Man I would love to take that apart!!
None are mine. None of the Essex Triad gyros have surfaced to the best of our knowledge. The Jandus gyro fixture pictured is the first generation yet to surface. The GE gyro is a rare bird. The Westinghouse gyro has surfaced in numbers. 

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https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/40/73/9b/8c9a234fa8139e/US1267752.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHOEZQ3U0tE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zybam57O9D4

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I have an old Ford "banjo" rear axle...



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Richard Daugird wrote: I have an old Ford "banjo" rear axle...

That'd make a big'un.

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Could mount a 16 inch pancake on either end

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Maybe even have Ted fabricate some custom 20 or 24 inch blades

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 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 02:33 pm
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Richard forgot to mention that we would need a 12 inch I beem to hold it up.

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No kidding! Would be neat in a hot rodder's "man cave", not sure about a living room...

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That cutaway drawing is great. Really interesting how these are put together. Notice there are 2 thrust bearings, at top and bottom of the rotating section. Good idea to prevent tip or sway, especially outdoors.

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The rear axle fan would best be powered by a flathead V8.

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I have a couple.

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