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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 01:56 am
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Charlie Forster
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Here is some pictures of the Savage Ghost the switch is broken and the power cord is very bitey !!
Would like to learn more about this fan.
The blades are 24 inch Vortlax style! it has 2, 350 volt caps and a rotary chain pull switch the thing holding the caps is the end cover of the motor duct tape to the stand.
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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 02:01 am
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Looks like a rebranded ILG to me. Andrew Block or David Allen can tell you about it.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 02:19 am
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Charlie Forster
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My son seen it in the mourning and said he thought it was a ghost with that bag on it.
We live on Savage so It got the name The Savage Road Ghost.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 11:38 am
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Stan Adams
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Good find! Love the name!

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 01:50 am
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Dose anyone know if there is switch and caps avable for this fan?
it is a pull chain with hi and low. the caps are 350 volts

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 01:51 am
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You can use 480 volt caps, just make sure the MFD or UF ratings are correct.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 02:03 am
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I haven't been able to fined the MFD or UF ratings as yet they are in some kind of holder .
might be soldered in
i suspose the switch is hard to find?.

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Charlie, I believe your fan uses the extremely hard to find Levolier Switch which is usually just replaced with a toggle swich if its bad. As far as the capacitors goes they should be between 2-5 MFD (μF) and you should be able to use a 450 VAC capacitor in there.

Hope this helps.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 05:39 am
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Levi
it is a two speed fan and would need more than a toggle switch.
fan is rough but I think it is worth  putting it back to work.
It will be a winter project. Just looking to find what it will need.

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Charlie Forster wrote: Levi
it is a two speed fan and would need more than a toggle switch.
fan is rough but I think it is worth  putting it back to work.
It will be a winter project. Just looking to find what it will need.
They have 3 position toggle switches.
Just follow the 2 links below and you'll see what I'm talking about.


Levolier to Toggle Conversion Thread Link

Replacing a Broken Levolier Switch with a Toggle Switch Link 2

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 06:07 am
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Thanks Levi,I might have a couple of those switches .
Ill have to get a good look at the wiring.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 07:11 am
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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 11:21 am
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Use a multimeter that has a capacitor check reading. It might be good enough to get a reading from. 

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 12:14 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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"Night Cooling" ?? because of quite blades!

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 01:53 pm
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When I brought this fan home  My Wife asked me  now where are you going to put that and I said in the Front room and with a funny face she said NO !
Ill get it in the shed this week and the base  needs some weld repair where the wood ash got to it.
I have a couple of the motor reversing switches  I may see if I can make it for this fan and will be heavy duty.
 Thank you Mike for the picture and info  do you know the two sizes are? this one is 24 inches.


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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 03:28 pm
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Firestone sold rebranded Ilg fans and had Ilg make a series of desk fans for them which are particularly cool. You have a basic Ilgwind model 283, size 24". The capacitors I believe are 80mfd and printed on the bottom. I have both the 24" and 33" models. The 33" is a silent windmaker.
The switch is a tall order, and a custom model AFAIK. 
You can replace it with a toggle but please disregard Levi's post about the Emerson conversion, this is a completely different style motor.

Do what I did on one of mine, and just finnagle the switch to one speed and leave it on that (I used low).

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 04:13 pm
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Charlie Forster
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Andrew,
I was thinking the same on the speeds I probably wouldn't  need any more than the low setting.
Would you have a picture of the back of the fan?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 04:27 pm
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This is when I was working on the switch. 

I like the badges on yours better. 

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 05:07 pm
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Charlie Forster
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That front badge will clean up more , I couldn't see anything on it when I brought it home.
Do you have the back motor cover?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 06:25 pm
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Yep. Mine is complete.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2019 05:37 am
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Charlie Forster
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I got this with the fan so it must be the speed control  for the fan with about 40 yards of cord.
It is a variable resistor don't know why they would need that much cord
It only has one place for a hook up with a  three prong  twist plug so you keep the polarity  going right or left.

The cord  is warped on a  frame made to hold it.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 03:49 pm
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Charlie Forster
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The fan is in the shed and will get to it later this winter.

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