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 Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 04:46 pm
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Dooley Ezzard
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I have recently had these two models rewired and cleaned and greased/oiled buy the only person I could find in NC. I love these fans. I can't reach the technician who worked on them and I have four questions which I feel need to be answered before using the fans.
1. the 29646 ( has a little 12 at the bottom right on the tag) four-speed base switch emits a few visible sparks when the slider is put in first speed position ( don't protrude beyond the inside of the base). Is this normal or dangerous. This fan seems to move more air than even my modern ceiling fans. Incredible fan.

2. There is a square headed bolt on the back just under the oscillating knob. It can be turned by hand. Is this to be tightened or is it normal. What is the purpose of this bolt? 

3. The 6250 D ( little 20 above the amps block) motor housing gets fairly hot to touch when running very long. Is this normal or dangerous?

4. The 6250 D switch has only one speed, on or off. Is this original configuration or should it have two speeds in addition to off? 

Thank you very much for any help you can offer. 
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 Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 05:08 pm
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Zachary Parr
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Your fans are fine. The bolt on the neck of the fan is to tighten the neck to hold the fan head in place. Your emerson 6250 is from 1940 which is the first year they made them so definitely keep that one. I don't remember if they get hot but it definitely doesn't cool. The 6250 is only a one speed fan. If your fan starts to smoke or slow down a lot when it is running then turn it off. 

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 Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 05:40 pm
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Thank you very much for your help. I see that if you add 20 to the little number on the bottom right you get the manufacture date. I guess my other Emerson is a 1932. It is a quiet and awesome fan with four speeds. I am relieved to know the sparks are not a problem when the unit is turned on. I will definitely keep the 6250. The body is mottled but it purrs along. It has brass blades. We use these fans every day.
  Thank you again for taking the time to respond. I'm new to this forum and didn't know what to expect. I have found on other forums that sometimes folks act like it's an imposition to deal with a novice. Not you.
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 Posted: Mon Sep 9th, 2019 06:06 pm
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I don't think sparks from a fan's switch is normal and have not noticed it on my fans.   The square headed bolt sounds like it's a "make do" to replace a missing wing screw or it's not what I am thinking it may be.   Post some photos so we can see.  1930 was the last year Emersons had brass blades but an older brass blade can be installed on many later Emersons.
This diagram is from c.1937 and, while not exactly like your Emerson, their fans did not change much in the major details.   Your fan does not use a capacitor in the base.   Your fan has three speeds.  Your smaller fan is a single speed.

Some Emerson info:
http://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/07/dating-early-emerson-60-cycle-and-dc.html




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I have two 29646 fans (and a couple other similar Emersons) and there may be a spark when engaging the first "on" position... definitely visible when turning the fan on in a dimly lit or dark room (or looking directly into the switch tab slot on the base of the fan).   


If you are seeing sparks that emit beyond the opening for the switch tab, or hear an audible "pop" when turning it on, I'd wager there is a problem.   

I have a 6250D in our kitchen that runs sometimes 8+ hours/day.  The housing will get warm, but I wouldn't say it has ever gotten hot.  I did refurb a 6250 that I gave to a friend... it would get hot after a couple hours of running but it just needed a good cleaning of the internals (rotor shaft and oscillator box).  It was binding somewhat.    

One way to tell is to time how long the 6250 takes to spin down.  Start a stopwatch the moment you switch the fan off and see how long it takes the blades to stop spinning.  On my 6250, it takes about 28 seconds.  On the fan that was getting hot, it would stop after about 10-11 seconds.     

Hope this is helpful.


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   Great information and the picture is really helpful in helping me understand these fans. It appears that all is well with these two great fans. I do notice that in the 6250D that the shaft will rattle some if the angle of the tilt is changed or when the fan first starts. The little screw is tight on the blade so I think it’s normal as the noise stops after a second .
The older Emerson is quiet and makes a strong wind current!!
   I was born in 1950 and I remember , in retrospect, that form and function were both important to consumers and manufacturers. I treasure the things I have that were made before the late 1960s . These two fans made life way more comfortable for folks then, I’m sure.
   I have recently discovered antique fans and am resisting the urge to get more. I met a guy, Chad, with Antique Fan Parts in Hickory , NC. He rewired my two Emersons and cleaned/ lubed them and I love ‘em. He has hundreds of restored or cleaned and lubed fans in original condition that are absolutely stunning. Some are very affordable and some are astronomical but rare and gorgeous fans.
Thank you for the great education and for taking the time to share from your knowledge and experience . I am hooked.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 10th, 2019 12:18 am
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Welcome to the club! :D If Chad is the one who restored your fans, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. His work is second to none. Real nice guy too! Also, don’t worry about the sparks. My 29646, 1510, and GE SMY all do the same thing (very faint blue flash upon start up). It’s never given me a problem. Fun fact, the 29646 was nicknamed “Emerson’s Workhorse”. In my opinion you couldn’t ask for a better daily runner!

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Chad has been very willing to share his knowledge with me. He is as nice a person as I have met. He is very passionate about fans, for sure!
Mr. Paul Graves said this 29646 is the Cadillac of fans because of the construction and durability.
I have a large and heavy Graybar that was appraised for me . It has a bad bearing, frayed wiring, oscillator gear housing crack , and dry rotted gromets all making it too expensive to repair. I could buy one of Chad’s beautiful fans for what this would cost to repair.
Can’t wait to find another fan. Thank you for the input .

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Welcome to the club Dooley. Hope you consider joining. The annual dues are very inexpensive and you get a great magazine each quarter that is worth the price of the dues. Membership comes with a directory with all the members and their contact information. The friendships I've made are priceless!!

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Please point me towards the info about joining . I haven’t spent enough time yet exploring the site. I would like to be a part of the community .

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There is a link that says “How to Join” on the Home page. You can get to the Home page via the side bar on the Forums section. Hope this helps.

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Steve Stephens wrote: I don't think sparks from a fan's switch is normal and have not noticed it on my fans.   The square headed bolt sounds like it's a "make do" to replace a missing wing screw or it's not what I am thinking it may be.   Post some photos so we can see.  1930 was the last year Emersons had brass blades but an older brass blade can be installed on many later Emersons.
This diagram is from c.1937 and, while not exactly like your Emerson, their fans did not change much in the major details.   Your fan does not use a capacitor in the base.   Your fan has three speeds.  Your smaller fan is a single speed.

Some Emerson info:
http://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/07/dating-early-emerson-60-cycle-and-dc.html




When you slide the switch it arcs to the contacts creating a spark for a second. If it continues to spark then there definitely is a problem. 

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Dooley Ezzard wrote: I have recently had these two models rewired and cleaned and greased/oiled buy the only person I could find in NC. I love these fans. I can't reach the technician who worked on them and I have four questions which I feel need to be answered before using the fans.
1. the 29646 ( has a little 12 at the bottom right on the tag) four-speed base switch emits a few visible sparks when the slider is put in first speed position ( don't protrude beyond the inside of the base). Is this normal or dangerous. This fan seems to move more air than even my modern ceiling fans. Incredible fan.

2. There is a square headed bolt on the back just under the oscillating knob. It can be turned by hand. Is this to be tightened or is it normal. What is the purpose of this bolt? 

3. The 6250 D ( little 20 above the amps block) motor housing gets fairly hot to touch when running very long. Is this normal or dangerous?

4. The 6250 D switch has only one speed, on or off. Is this original configuration or should it have two speeds in addition to off? 

Thank you very much for any help you can offer. 
DE
Also make sure to oil the fans every year with non detergent oil like 3 in 1 BLUE can and zoom spout. 

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